>   Those places are
> Solaris heavy, in my experience.

What does that tell you?

> But there are a lot of places that need a system that
> someone there knows
> how to use a lot more than they need a system that
> some sysadmin they don't
> have can keep running out to 5 nines.  There are a
> lot of places that have
> developers for whom Linux is the best choice because
> that's where they know
> how to develop.  

Can one really call oneself a developer, if she/he doesn't know the underlying 
OS he/she is developing on/for?

> A nice new turbo diesel may be a lot better than an
> older gasoline engine,
> but so help me, I don't have any idea how to change
> the oil in one.

Like this: you drain the oil, then unscrew the oil filter, and then screw the 
new one on. Ee, wait! That's *exactly* how one does it on a gasoline engine. 
Whaddya know?

> For users who come from a Linux background for
> whatever reason, system
> maintenance has a pretty steep learning curve on
> Solaris.

Funny isn't it? I with my Solaris/UNIX knowledge can easily figure out and use 
any Linux system, but the same does not hold true the other way around. At 
least not in most cases, as we can clearly see from comments and questions here 
on opensolaris.org.

Hmmm, now why would that be the case?
Why doesn't the opposite hold true in most cases?

> My question, though, is that if
> Solaris continues to work
> for your 'real' sysadmins, what's wrong with it being
> accessible and usable
> by the 'hackers' too?  

Hacking something up in the PoC (Proof of Concept) phase is fine -- that's how 
some of the most ingenious things came to see the light of day.

What's not fine, and definitely not OK, is when a hack is released as a 
finished product, and when quantity comes before quality.

>From what I can tell, both from experience and reading the  responses here, 
>Solaris folks want quality over anything else.

It's most likely one of the biggest reasons they are just that - Solaris users, 
and not Linux ones. There's of course another lesson to be learned from that, 
only if people that this concerns were willing to learn.
 
 
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