On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Jennifer Pioch <piochjenni...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Dave Johnson > <dave.johnson.inqu...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> This is how Oracle treats open communities and projects. Will OGB intervene? >> >> David >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Dave Johnson <dave.johnson.inqu...@googlemail.com> >> Date: Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:44 PM >> Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] [desktop-discuss] 2010.03, when will it be >> available? >> To: "Richard L. Hamilton" <rlha...@smart.net> >> Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org, indiana-disc...@opensolaris.org >> >> >> On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Richard L. Hamilton <rlha...@smart.net> >> wrote: >>>> Slide 22 is also very interesting and gives me a lot >>>> of reassurance: >>>> >>>> OpenSolaris >>>> • Oracle will continue to make OpenSolaris available >>>> as open source and >>>> Oracle will continue to actively support and >>>> participate in the >>>> OpenSolaris community >>>> • Oracle is investing more in Solaris than Sun did >>>> prior to the >>>> acquisition, and will continue to contribute >>>> innovative technologies to >>>> OpenSolaris, as Oracle already does for many other >>>> open source projects >>>> >>>> Coming from Oracle there's no longer any doubt that >>>> it will be alright. >>>> I'm going to be an OpenSolairs user for quite some >>>> time to come. ;-) >>> >>> While that presentation was indeed reassuring, from the >>> reactions I've seen so far, many seem to hope that >>> "participate in the OpenSolaris community" would include >>> less restrictive communication than it appears is allowed >>> by the current application of their policies to OpenSolaris. >>> >>> I see open source plus community meaning, when it wouldn't >>> compromise competitive information about a pending product, >>> that the development process and activity is also open, to include >>> some information about _planned_ components thereof, as well. >>> >>> One of the many reasons for more open communication is that >>> outside contributors should be entitled to a little courtesy when >>> their work is affected (look at ksh93-discuss to see a case of that). >> >> Oracle doesn't want the command modernisation and ksh93 projects. They >> had too much community influence in the past, are too independent and >> Oracle wants to replace the Solaris commands in usr/bin with GNU >> commands. Oracle has already decided that in February and now try to >> get rid of the projects by denying them repository access. >> The projects are dead. There is enough evidence what Oracle is planning. >> >> Dave > > Where's your "evidence", troll?
Here is the evidence: Evidence 1: - Project cooperation with ksh project withdrawn - GNU commands as replacements are the future ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: John Sonnenschein <john.sonnensch...@sun.com> Date: Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 6:01 PM Subject: Re: Removal of some redundant GNU utilities [PSARC/2009/660 FastTrack timeout 12/10/2009] To: psarc-...@sun.com After discussions with the OpenSolaris architect and lead, I withdraw this case. It was premature and will be revised as part of a bigger project to provide Solaris modernization using GNU utilities for /usr/bin. -JohnS _______________________________________________ opensolaris-arc mailing list opensolaris-...@opensolaris.org Evidence 2: Repeated deny of repository access. Repeated. The ksh team is merely needed to do bug fixing for ksh until the team can be replaced by Oracle in house resources. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: John Beck <john.b...@oracle.com> Date: 2010/4/30 Subject: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] 4th code review for next POSIX utility modernisation milestone, ksh93 bug fixes and /usr/bin/xgrep To: ? <olga.kryzhanov...@gmail.com> Cc: Korn Shell 93 integration/migration project discussion <ksh93-integration-disc...@opensolaris.org>, John Beck <john.b...@oracle.com>, venkateshwara...@sun.com, u.v.ravin...@oracle.com > All put backs related to the POSIX utility modernisation are on *hold* > right now, even the security related bits of /bin/mktemp we fixed. What I said was that conversion of any *new* utilities to ksh93 is on hold. Bug fixes in ksh93, its libraries, and previously converted utilities are all welcome. -- John Sponsor my 100-mile bike ride fund raiser for the American Lung Association http://action.lungusa.org/goto/jbeck ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: John Beck <john.b...@oracle.com> Date: Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] 4th code review for next POSIX utility modernisation milestone, ksh93 bug fixes and /usr/bin/xgrep To: "I. Szczesniak" <iszczesn...@gmail.com> Cc: Korn Shell 93 integration/migration project discussion <ksh93-integration-disc...@opensolaris.org>, John Beck <john.b...@oracle.com>, <olga.kryzhanov...@gmail.com>, venkateshwara...@sun.com, u.v.ravin...@oracle.com I> Why are only *new* utilities on hold? I cannot say at this time. As soon as I have information that I am allowed to share, I will pass that information along. -- John Sponsor my 100-mile bike ride fund raiser for the American Lung Association http://action.lungusa.org/goto/jbeck Dave _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
