Alan, come on. What does access to basic patches have to do with production deployment? Even at home, I don't look at some set of my boxes and even think, oh, those can go without patches. And the idea that you've got a product that's supposed to be available for evaluation and development but that can only be bought for the same price charged for production support on a product that's increasingly targeted to enterprise environments ($1k USD per socket per year)... Last time I tried to get a price on this, I spent weeks being passed between sales people, so I've got no appetite to go through that process in search of a reasonable price. Where's the recognition of where the product makes sense and a SKU to get it there?
Why aren't there reasonably priced subscriptions available for development, education, and evaluation that package support and tools? The principle that patches aren't a basic requirement of running an OS and only available through a licensing model targeting enterprises for production together tell me that Oracle hasn't found the plot they lost when they withdrew OpenSolaris and decided that the primary mission of Solaris should be to maximise revenue from enterprise sales. I don't want to build relationships with Oracle through the sale organisation any more than I want to have to spend time with a car salesman: I just want a reasonable list price to get software I need that I'm not buying with someone else's money, and I gotta say, the only other major game where I have to buy such a package at all is Microsoft, where Oracle is asking a multiple of their list. Dave is right: this is demoware, and the only person who want to run this as offered is someone who wants a Solaris install that only lasts long enough to make a sales pitch. On 16 Nov 2010, at 04:45, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Dave Koelmeyer wrote: >>> Sean M. Brannon wrote: >>>> What is the update/patch policy for Express? i.e. >>> is an Oracle support contract required to gain access >>> to Solaris 11 Express software/security updates? >>> >>> Yes. >> >> Oh, awesome. More demo software. > > Free trial/evaluation software. Like Solaris 10, production > use requires support contracts. > > -- > -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@oracle.com > Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
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