On Thu, 15 May 2008, Bodo Moeller wrote:

> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Erik de Castro Lopo
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Goetz Babin-Ebell wrote:
> 
> >> But here the use of this uninitialized data is intentional
> >> and the programmer are very well aware of what they did.
> 
> > The use of unititialized data in this case is stupid because the
> > entropy of this random data is close to zero.
> 
> It may be zero, but it may be more, depending on what happened earlier
> in the program if the same memory locations have been in use before.
> This may very well include data that would be unpredictable to
> adversaries -- i.e., entropy; that's the point here.

on the other hand it may be a known plaintext attack.

what are you guys smoking?

-dean
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