On 17/08/18 13:34 -0500, Sean McGinnis wrote:

Has there been a discussion on record of how use of placement by cinder
would affect "standalone" cinder (or manila) initiatives where there is a
desire to be able to run cinder by itself (with no-auth) or just with
keystone (where OpenStack style multi-tenancy is desired)?

Tom Barron (tbarron)


A little bit. That would be one of the pieces that needs to be done if we were
to adopt it.

Just high level brainstorming, but I think we would need something like we have
now with using tooz where if it is configured for it, it will use etcd for
distributed locking. And for single node installs it just defaults to file
locks.

So I want to understand better what problems placement would solve and whether those problems need to be solved even in the cinder/manila standalone case. And if they do have to be solved in both cases, why not use the same solution for both cases?

That *might* mean running the placement service even in the standalone case if it's sufficiently lightweight and can be run without the rest of nova. (Whether it's "under" nova umbrella doesn't matter for this decoupling - nothing I'm saying here is intended to argue against e.g. Mel's or Dan's points in this thread.)

-- Tom Barron (tbarron)




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