Hongbin, It's correct, I was involved in two big OpenStack private cloud 
deployments and we never had public ips.In such case Magnum shouldn't create 
any private networks, operator need to provide network id/name or it should use 
default  (we used to have networking selection logic in scheduler) .
--- Egor
      From: Hongbin Lu <hongbin...@huawei.com>
 To: Guz Egor <guz_e...@yahoo.com>; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for 
usage questions) <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> 
 Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 7:29 AM
 Subject: RE: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Are Floating IPs really needed for all 
nodes?
   
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div.yiv8309482815WordSection1 {}#yiv8309482815 Egor,    I agree with what you 
said, but I think we need to address the problem that some clouds are lack of 
public IP addresses. It is not uncommon that a private cloud is running without 
public IP addresses, and they already figured out how to route traffics in and 
out. In such case, a bay doesn’t need to have floating IPs and the NodePort 
feature seems to work with the private IP address.    Generally speaking, I 
think it is useful to have a feature that allows bays to work without public IP 
addresses. I don’t want to end up in a situation that Magnum is unusable 
because the clouds don’t have enough public IP addresses.    Best regards, 
Hongbin    From: Guz Egor [mailto:guz_e...@yahoo.com]
Sent: March-31-16 12:08 AM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Are Floating IPs really needed for all 
nodes?    -1    who is going to run/support this proxy? also keep in mind that 
Kubernetes Service/NodePort 
(http://kubernetes.io/docs/user-guide/services/#type-nodeport) functionality is 
not going to work without public ip and this is very handy feature.      ---  
Egor    From:王华 <wanghua.hum...@gmail.com>
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) 
<openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Are Floating IPs really needed for all 
nodes?    Hi yuanying,    I agree to reduce the usage of floating IP. But as 
far as I know, if we need to pull docker images from docker hub in nodes 
floating ips are needed. To reduce the usage of floating ip, we can use proxy. 
Only some nodes have floating ips, and other nodes can access docker hub by 
proxy.    Best Regards, Wanghua    On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Eli Qiao 
<liyong.q...@intel.com> wrote:

 Hi Yuanying,
+1 
I think we can add option on whether to using floating ip address since IP 
address are
kinds of resource which not wise to waste.    On 2016年03月31日 10:40, 大塚元央 wrote: 
Hi team,    Previously, we had a reason why all nodes should have floating ips 
[1]. But now we have a LoadBalancer features for masters [2] and minions [3]. 
And also minions do not necessarily need to have floating ips [4]. I think it’s 
the time to remove floating ips from all nodes.    I know we are using floating 
ips in gate to get log files, So it’s not good idea to remove floating ips 
entirely.    I want to introduce `disable-floating-ips-to-nodes` parameter to 
bay model.    Thoughts?    [1]: 
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-June/067213.html [2]: 
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/make-master-ha [3]: 
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/external-lb [4]: 
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-June/067280.html    
Thanks -yuanying 

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