Egor,
I agree with you. I think Magnum should support another option to connect a bay 
to an existing neutron private network instead of creating one. If you like, we 
can discuss it separately in our next team meeting or in the design summit.

Best regards,
Hongbin

From: Guz Egor [mailto:guz_e...@yahoo.com]
Sent: March-31-16 12:42 PM
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Cc: Hongbin Lu
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Are Floating IPs really needed for all 
nodes?

Hongbin,

It's correct, I was involved in two big OpenStack private cloud deployments and 
we never had public ips.
In such case Magnum shouldn't create any private networks, operator need to 
provide network id/name or
it should use default  (we used to have networking selection logic in 
scheduler) .

---
Egor

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Egor,

I agree with what you said, but I think we need to address the problem that 
some clouds are lack of public IP addresses. It is not uncommon that a private 
cloud is running without public IP addresses, and they already figured out how 
to route traffics in and out. In such case, a bay doesn’t need to have floating 
IPs and the NodePort feature seems to work with the private IP address.

Generally speaking, I think it is useful to have a feature that allows bays to 
work without public IP addresses. I don’t want to end up in a situation that 
Magnum is unusable because the clouds don’t have enough public IP addresses.

Best regards,
Hongbin

From: Guz Egor [mailto:guz_e...@yahoo.com]
Sent: March-31-16 12:08 AM
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nodes?

-1

who is going to run/support this proxy? also keep in mind that Kubernetes 
Service/NodePort (http://kubernetes.io/docs/user-guide/services/#type-nodeport)
functionality is not going to work without public ip and this is very handy 
feature.

---
Egor

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From: 王华 <wanghua.hum...@gmail.com<mailto:wanghua.hum...@gmail.com>>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Are Floating IPs really needed for all 
nodes?

Hi yuanying,

I agree to reduce the usage of floating IP. But as far as I know, if we need to 
pull
docker images from docker hub in nodes floating ips are needed. To reduce the
usage of floating ip, we can use proxy. Only some nodes have floating ips, and
other nodes can access docker hub by proxy.

Best Regards,
Wanghua

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Eli Qiao 
<liyong.q...@intel.com<mailto:liyong.q...@intel.com>> wrote:
Hi Yuanying,
+1
I think we can add option on whether to using floating ip address since IP 
address are
kinds of resource which not wise to waste.

On 2016年03月31日 10:40, 大塚元央 wrote:
Hi team,

Previously, we had a reason why all nodes should have floating ips [1].
But now we have a LoadBalancer features for masters [2] and minions [3].
And also minions do not necessarily need to have floating ips [4].
I think it’s the time to remove floating ips from all nodes.

I know we are using floating ips in gate to get log files,
So it’s not good idea to remove floating ips entirely.

I want to introduce `disable-floating-ips-to-nodes` parameter to bay model.

Thoughts?

[1]: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-June/067213.html
[2]: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/make-master-ha
[3]: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/external-lb
[4]: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-June/067280.html

Thanks
-yuanying

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