Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2016-09-09 14:30:29 -0400: > On 09/09/2016 02:10 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2016-09-09 13:03:42 -0400: > >> My vote is definitely for something #2-like, as I've said before and on > >> the review, I believe OpenStack should be a "cloud toolkit" composed of > >> well-scoped and limited services in the vein of the UNIX model of do one > >> thing and do it well. I believe that vendors and cloud providers should > >> be able to choose services and tools from this OpenStack cloud toolkit > >> to build clouds, cloud products, and products that utilize OpenStack > >> service APIs to please customers. > >> > >> It makes sense for many of those cloud toolkit services and components > >> to integrate well with each other via public, stable interfaces and > >> there's nothing about OpenStack being a collection of cloud tools that > >> prevents or discourages that integration. > >> > >> Best, > >> -jay > > > > I don't see a conflict with saying that what we're producing is a > > set of things that can be composed in different ways depending on > > need, but that the way we produce them is through a unified community > > with common practices, tools, and patterns. > > Absolutely agree with you above. But note that you say "what we're > producing is a set of things". You do not say "what we're producing is > *one* thing", which is what "a single product composed of cooperating > components" implies and which I don't think is realistic or correct. > > > To me, this statement > > about One OpenStack is about emphasizing those commonalities and > > working together to increase them, with the combined goals of > > improving the user and operator experience of using OpenStack and > > improving our own experience of making it. > > +1000 to the above, and I don't believe anything about my stance that > OpenStack should be a cloud toolkit goes against that. > > The wording/philosophy that I disagree with is the "one product" thing :)
Tomato, tomato. We're all, I think, looking at this "One OpenStack" principle from different perspectives. You say "a toolkit". I say "a project". Thierry said "a product". The important word in all of those phrases is "a" -- as in singular. Doug __________________________________________________________________________ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev