John, We were just discussing this problem the other day. I'm hesitant to mute people, but the chaos is hard to follow. I often have to go back and read the logs to study what people's opinions are. I would be interested in trying some of your suggestions with the appropriate time for comments and discussion with the community.
pvo On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Monty Taylor <mord...@inaugust.com> wrote: > On 09/09/2011 11:05 AM, John Dickinson wrote: > > I have found the PPB meetings to be very disjointed and hard to > > follow. A classic example is from our last meeting where 3 votes were > > proposed and only 2 were voted on. At times we have several > > conversations going on at once. Sometimes we vote, someone continues > > the discussion, and then we revote. It's possible that people > > offering support for an idea (with a +1) may be counted in a vote, > > even if that person is not on the PPB. These sorts of things tend to > > push the PPB meetings toward chaos. > > I fully agree with this. > > > 1) What if during the PPB meetings only those people on the PPB were > > voiced and could speak? I absolutely do not want to discourage > > valuable input from people not on the PPB, so I think this would > > require meaningful time allowed for "public commentary" where anyone > > and everyone can speak. One implementation would be to mute all > > non-PPB members in the channel during a vote. Another implementation > > would be to have designated non-PPB time about each topic, perhaps > > after initial PPB member discussion. I think a more moderated > > discussion could perhaps make better use of our limited meeting time > > and help everyone be more clear on what is being discussed and voted > > on. > > This is not a terrible idea. > > Also - I almost started hacking on something the other day and then > realized that I have 50 bazillion more important things to do, BUT: > > The meetbot used in #ubuntu-meeting has a voting feature. Similar to the > #topic command we use with our meetbot, it has a #vote command. So like: > > #vote Should we all only drink Dr. Pepper? > > And then it counts the +1's and such given by participants. > > So I was going to port that idea in to our meetbot. > > Additionally (and this would help support your voice/non-voice idea) I > was thinking that if we gave an additional argument to #startmeeting (in > my brain, the launchpad team, since we already have those set up) we > could have the meetbot grab a list of people it allows to vote, etc. > from the team given - and even add a couple of toggle commands #public > #private which could toggle voices only to team members or to everyone. > > So, I think that's 2.5 feature requests for meetbot. On the plus side, > the code is in python. Anybody wanna do a little hacking? > > > 2) Can we have an official summary of the meetings published after > > each of the meetings? The notes that the meetbot provides are sparse > > (at best) and the raw IRC logs are voluminous and hard to read. > > ++ > > Monty > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc > Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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