I was about to say ;) My unofficial forums aren't THAT ugly!
-- Chad On May 5, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Anne Gentle wrote: > Oh and I use "ugly" in quotation marks to indicate that's completely > subjective. No judgment from me! I only believe data. :) I didn't want to use > inflammatory word choices here, sorry. > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Anne Gentle <[email protected]> wrote: > We're still so small it's very reasonable for all members of the community to > want to have some say here. Plus there's a lotta overlap in these two groups, > dev and SA. :) > > - we're highly interested in defending OpenStack as a brand and as such, > don't see value in "ugly" unofficial forums > - we want to participate but only if it's a tool we like and feel we've given > input into > - we don't want to further dilute the resources we have with yet another > login-based website > - we somehow tied it into the Launchpad/Github debate as Launchpad Answers is > one solution to the types of problems that a "forum" solves > > I think a clearer restatement of the end-goals of forums would be helpful. > Here are some ideas. Please offer your input as well. > > 1. Efficiency and reduce confusion: Offer one place to ask and answer > questions. > 2. Efficiency and reduce confusion: Decrease user-question-type traffic on > #openstack IRC. > 3. Reciprocity: Offer a place to help others expecting help in return. > 4. Reputation: Offer a method for proving your knowledge of OpenStack. > 5. Efficiency and reduce confusion: Eliminate the scattering of places where > you can ask and answer questions now: docs.openstack.org comments, Launchpad > Answers, and IRC. > > Adding a forum without eliminating at least one other of these options does > not seem efficient without proving the gains you expect to see. We have to > keep monitoring all sites including Twitter for questions, yet Twitter in > itself does not provide a tool for a community support site. > > Since docs provide support and also an opportunity for Q&A I'm pretty vested > in the solution as well. I'd prefer we find a way to integrate with a site > that could become a community support site, not just a forum. I think that > distinction is at the heart of this discussion. > > Does that help? > Anne > > > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Rinke <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't see why developers are weighing in so heavily on something > specifically for the user community? Many of you have specifically said you > wouldn't visit a forum so why do you care so much about what software it > uses, or if it even exists? > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Chad Keck" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2011 12:55pm > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Openstack] Creating a forum > > What does it matter what the forum looks like? If you are implying that > forums are largely unpopular today because of StackOverflow you would be > wrong. Of course StackOverflow is popular, for some, and it works great for a > specific type of community. > > Maybe someone should clearly articulate what problem we are trying to solve > here. If it's direct Q&A then a StackOverflow style site is probably better, > if its a place for conversation, exchange of ideas or asking indirect > questions I think traditional forums are better, IMHO. > > -- Chad > > On May 5, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: > > > On May 4, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Chad Keck wrote: > > > >> How about this... > >> > >> www.stackertalk.com > >> > >> Since I'm not a developer I'd like to contribute in some form or another > >> :) There is a lot more refinement that needs to go into the site but I'm > >> happy to run this forum. If anyone would like to help moderate/administer > >> please let me know. > > > > -1 > > > > This looks like every other run-of-the-mill forum circa 1999. The > > reason StackOverflow is so popular is largely a reaction to fora like this. > > > > > > -- Ed Leafe > > > > > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message (including any attached or > > embedded documents) is intended for the exclusive and confidential use of > > the > > individual or entity to which this message is addressed, and unless > > otherwise > > expressly indicated, is confidential and privileged information of > > Rackspace. > > Any dissemination, distribution or copying of the enclosed material is > > prohibited. > > If you receive this transmission in error, please notify us immediately by > > e-mail > > at [email protected], and delete the original message. > > Your cooperation is appreciated. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
