On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 16:03 +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > Klaus Kaempf wrote: > > As written before, I'd see such tools as convenience applications. > > > > Maybe we should define the purpose and application of such a 'base' > > pattern first. > > Is it for > > 1. installing a really minimal but somewhat usable system via CD/DVD ? > > yes. > > > 2. running a (Xen) virtual guest ? > > yes. > > > 3. running a chroot environment ? > > Hmm ... > > > For 1., a minimal YaST or zypper would be essential, I agree. > > Yep. I think it should install something roughly comparable to the > rescue system (plus zypper to install packages and fetch security updates). > > > For 2. or 3. a bash prompt would probably be sufficient (plus a > > way to install the application you want to run virtualized.) > > Xen: no. You don't use xen guests just to boot to the bash prompt, > usually you want to do something useful with them. So you need some > convinent way to install software. You also want security updates for > them. I don't see how xen guests are that much different than a minimum > system on real hardware. > > chroot: very much depends on what you plan to do with it. The chroots > which are created for running daemons in there (named, dhcpd, ...) are > smaller than any package on the distro ;) For building packages you > don't need network, but some other tools such as make and a compiler. > > cheers, > Gerd
You need to "slim-down" on two fronts: Disk-space and/or memory There are a number of tiny (live) distro's that whould run happily from a CD and are full featured graphical desktop, with OO.o, firefox, NX/VNC, gaim,.... Which should be able to have it on a 1GB usb-pendrive !!! While one could use all the mem there is. On the other hand, for XEN, you want to cut down on mem. Good examples for DOM-u's are: -DHCP -DNS -LAMP -Mysql/postgress -temporary compile engine You want to run those images with as little mem as needed At 10.0, i could have those running with as little as 128 MB, with still unclaimed memory. Now, with 10.2, 512 is hardly enough :( Here, disk-space if often not such a problem (SAN/NAS) When thinking of embedded system, then you have to slim down on both... Hans -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
