>>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2005 at 12:17 pm, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 
> Thanks for all the info, I'll need some time to mull it over -  but
if I hit 
> any more snags I'll let you know.
> 
> Really my main interest in waiting for SuSe 10 gold DVD was simply 
> convienience -  it is a one time setup process and I can buy the DVD
and get 
> support etc along with all the other benefits of just doing a one
time 
> install. I am possibly just a tad lazy, as a DVD just allows me to
install 
> everything I might possibly need in one go and then go out for a walk
for an 
> 

sure ... I am going to create a little wiki page on SUPER to go from
SUSE retail to SLICK manually for people like yourself. This should
help


> hour or so while it installs. I am also TBH not really very
interested in 
> having lot's of very beta applications on my system, or beta Window
managers 
> 
> and so on -  the only thing that interests me really your patch set
and your 
> kernels (and also your patched ATI drivers -  since ATI still suck at
keeping 
> up with the latest kernel builds) and anything really that gives my
standard 
> 

sure I should have it all running this week ready for final release.
The above page I mentioned helps in getting just those parts manually
into SUSE that you want.


> SuSe install a nice big performance boost.
> 
> It is nice to have several different versions of SuSe that one can
install -  
> including a minimal one CD version -  but these kinds of installs are
equally 
> achievable via the official SuSe 10 DVD. (I guess the single CD
version is 
> useful for those few remaining people who don't have a DVD drive). So
really 
> 
> for me just focusing on your patches and your kernels is enough.
>

Fair enough.

 
> I can still of course report on any problems I find, but ultimately
as I do 
> have a DVD drive (indeed I have several DVD drives) I don't see any
real 
> need to use a seperate single CD installer. Besides which from my
POV, the 
> less uncertainty I introduce into the loop the better.
>

That would be great
 
> An example of this is the Sax2 bug. I have tested 10.0 RC1 on the
same 
> system and Sax2 functions normally. But on your CD it does not. (BTW

> regrettably there is no error output, the process simply dies before
Sax2 
> ever launches). While you might not intend to intruduce errors into a

> minimalist type install, over time this might be more difficult to do
as 
> users increasingly report more and more errors to you and you
struggle to 
> fix them. At least with 10.0 official, if Sax2 (or any other
component) 
> craps out I will know exactly who to approach.
>

What is your system spec (hardware, cpu, videocard)
 
> In any case that is my intention, I intend to trouble you only with
issues 
> relating to your patches and your kernels -  and to approach the SuSe
10 main 
> development team with issues relating to everything else.
>

No trouble whatsoever .. I am here to answer those questions I feel
comfortable answering on SUSE and Slick. After all this direct
interaction between Novell and the developer community is the strenght
of openSUSE and an Open Source community structure we are in the early
stages of building here. So keep asking ...

Andreas



Andreas


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