On Wednesday 22 January 2014 15:13:02 Klaus Kaempf wrote:
> * Sascha Peilicke <[email protected]> [Jan 22. 2014 14:19]:
> > Mucho agreed. I strongly vote for keeping parallel-installability. For
> > several products (like Cloud) this is a must-have.
> 
> Hmm, I somewhat struggle with that. Why's it a 'must-have' ?

So Cloud-3 currently is still based on 1.8 and rails-2.3. We very recently got 
more manpower and I expect this to change soon. But at least ATM, we're not 
2.1 ready.

> > And it's already present in openSUSE (and thus SLE12).
> 
> Well, this proposal is about removing this parallel-installability for
> SLE12.
> 
> > > > 2. Ruby will be part of inst-sys (for YaST)
> > 
> > Another good reason why you want parallel installs. ATM ruby-2.1 is fresh
> > like cheese. But this version on SLE_X. Let 6 years pass and take one of
> > our Ruby- based products. It will likely use ruby-42 by then. You can't
> > drop ruby21 because of yast but you need ruby42 because of $PRODUCT...
> 
> I'm pretty sure we will be able to adapt yast to ruby-4.2. So this
> argument does not hold for me.

That is not my point, the question is if $SUSE_PRODUCT_X will be similarly 
capable to adapt.

Let's do it the other way around, yast moved to ruby-4.2 but cloud-9 wants 
ruby-2.1. Of course you could ask "dear cloud guys", please fix this. But this 
would probably only happen for cloud-10. And our SLE_12 using customer may or 
may not want to upgrade to it.

> > > > 5. ruby-macros ?
> > > > 
> > > >     This would be a new name for ruby-common, a package only used for
> > > >     building ruby GEM packages.
> > > >     Actually, I'm not happy about the name. It should reflect the
> > > >     package
> > > >     usage. ruby-devel-build or ruby-build-macros could be
> > > >     alternatives.
> > 
> > Dunno if it's worth discussing package names but it's established practice
> > to name RPM macro packages for software foo $FOO as $FOO-macros or
> > $FOO-rpm- macros. Maybe the later is more obvious.
> 
> Yes, ruby-rpm-macros seems like a good name.
> 
> 
> Klaus

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