-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Richard Bos wrote: > I'll follow. Let me start with saying that I want to see smart and yum > succeed. I look forward to the day that there is one format package repo > format for suse operational. > > Op zaterdag 7 januari 2006 01:54, schreef Pascal Bleser: >> So about the question what can smart do that yast2's package manager >> doesn't. > >> There is still much room for improvements, no question about that, but what >> Christoph meant and what I'd also like to ask: please test it and file bug >> reports. And if you'd like to contribute in other ways: coding on the >> project, translating locale messages, writing documentation. > > What does not work: are urls with login and passwords, like: > ftp://login:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/dir > This works with yum
Ok, good point to check. If it doesn't work, it should be added (not very difficult though, it's a central component that handles all file retrieval in smart). > Why does smart not read the /etc/yum.repos.d directory? I now have to define > the repositories twice :( Because smart doesn't use yum. That's one of the nice things about smart: repository metadata support for apt-rpm, rpm-md/yum, yast2, urpmi, ... ... has been implemented in pure Python code, independently of whether you have yum, apt-rpm, yast2, urpmi, etc.. installed or not. Also, it has a very minimal set of dependencies (python >= 2.3, python-rpm). Note that the code to import yum.repos.d/* could be added. The question is whether one really wants that :) I use rpm-md repositories without having configured any repository in yum. How do you want to sync between the smart channels and yum yum.repos.d/* ? - - at installation of smart, once - - every time smart starts up, but only add channels for yum repos that are missing (as channels) don't remove anything - - same as above but with prompting the user for every channel - - explicitely, with a "reposync" (just an example ;)) command in smart ... ? What could be done very easily is a set of scripts that import - - yum (/etc/yum.repos.d/*) - - apt-rpm (/etc/apt/sources.list + /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*) - - yast2 (installation_sources -s) repositories into smart. I already hacked one (not much tested though) for apt-rpm: http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/files/smart/apt-sources-to-smart.sh And there's another one written by oc2pus: http://www30.websamba.com/texpert/ Same could be done for yum and yast2. Quickly hacked a prototype for importing yast2 sources: http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/files/smart/yast2-sources-to-smart.sh It even imports the "autorefresh" and "enabled" information. Run with -n for a dry run. Disclaimer: early alpha version, untested, use at your own risk ;) > Smart is not integrated with suse... I mean the "OK" button is at the right > side while suse (kde) has it left... (nothing will be done about it, I > know). Hm. File a bug ? ;) Maybe a SUSE-specific patch into the smart.rpm, but I'm not sure it's a good idea to have a different UI on SUSE than on other distros ;) > There is a field labelled alias and another one name (when adding a channel). > > I think the name field should be labelled "description". If that would > happen the alias field could be labelled "name"... Yes, might be easier to understand. >> So, what's so nice about Smart. >> * mirrors >> - mirrors are managed globally, for every single operation, because you >> just define URL mappings (e.g. >> "http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS"; -> >> "http://ftp.belnet.be/packages/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.0-OSS";), that's >> it, it will apply for every file retrieval because it's managed by a >> central component > > Is there a central directory that shows which repositories are available? No. Remember that smart is not SUSE-specific in any way and already used since some time by people on other distros. > Something like the /etc/yum.repos.d directory but than on a central server. > (Perhaps start on wiki page)? packman has a mirrorlist file, I have a just > created a repodata file, there is one for kolab, but where can these be > registered? How do we know what is available, without searching the whole > internet? Perhaps Eberhard can make a directory that hold links to all the > repodata directories on his server? Similar to the list of repositories on http://opensuse.org Note that smart has the nice ability to retrieve a list of repositories from a text file, e.g.: smart channel --add http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/files/smart/my-smart-channels.txt >> But it has already proven to be very solid and consistent in terms of >> package management and dependency handling (especially 0.41 that sorts out >> a lot of bugs that happened on SUSE Linux < 10.1 because of an older RPM >> version). > > command line tool yummie :) > Heh, why is the /etc/yum.repos.d so empty when it is installed?? Why does it > not come preconfigured with information for base, security, and all the other > goodies (of course they could all be disabled). Smart does, because in my smart.rpm I add those channels (as well as my repo and packman). >> http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/rpm-navigation.php?cat=/System/smart > It was very easy to install with apt :) > Do you have a yum repodata directory? Yes, not much tested/used but should work: http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.0/RPMS (as well as for 9.3, 9.2, etc...) ... > What about the rpmkey rpms? Will they be supported? I saw that each rpmkey > file has to be configured in the /etc/yum.repos.d/* files? Why is it that > way, why should they be configured in those repository files? That's a yum thing, not smart ;) Smart has no rpmkey support AFAIK. Again, could be done as well. > Sofar my ramblings. it nice to see that smart works now (this was not the > case when a I tested version 0.2 (or something like that) some years ago) ;) - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDv9SVr3NMWliFcXcRAp2RAJ489ZdWHVNORYrkYJx6RJuG0EBPXgCgmUNa xqSxevDI5SZDoAVsQpFGjbw= =URTw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
