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Mark Hounschell wrote:
> John Andersen wrote:
>> On Sunday 19 November 2006 01:28, Mark Hounschell wrote:
>>> What would happen if MS were able to coerce
>>> Novell into actually sneaking some of its IP into linux (glibc/kernel etc)
>>> only to be 'discovered' at some time convenient to MS?
>>>
>> That seems pretty far fetched.  Why do it so publicly?
>> If you are into conspiracy theories, heres one for you:
> 
> Actually I am, but unfortunately, despite 'anything said or read anywhere by
> anybody', the fact is, MS wants linux gone and nothing it 'intentionally' does
> is going to help linux or any linux distributer in the long run. Including 
> Novell.

Indeed. But MS is currently very concerned about being booted out of
state institutions, and the EU plays a big role here.
MS is trying to show that they can "play nice", especially in terms of
interoperability.

We'll see. Sun has pretty much the same deal with MS since April.
There's an interview of Gosling (the father of Java) somewhere on the
net where he says that deal hasn't really brought much technical
developments in terms of interop.
But then, Java/.NET is one thing, Linux/MS is another (active directory,
virtualization, etc...)

>> It seems more likely to me that Novell caught Microsoft
>> with some GPL code in Vista the day before it went to production
>> and the big hurry up was all about getting SOMETHING in place
>> so that Vista could ship. Then they can work to replace it via normal
>> update means later.

Well, who knows. It's possible but far fetched.

> But Novell, nor anyone else, has the access to MS code that could enable such 
> a
> find. Unless it was something as obvious as say finding KDE on the desktop. 
> This
> seems impossible to me.

Potential patent infringement accusations don't need access to source
code. Most of the trivial patents actually cover things like buying with
a single click (Amazon).

>> I don't buy the Oracle response theory, cuz Microsoft has no
>> product that is competitive with Oracle anyway, so why would
>> they have to respond to that.
> 
> Agreed.

I wouldn't say that. MS SQL is most probably the worst database in the
industry, but MS definitely considers it a competitive product to
Oracle. And I'm sure Oracle keeps an eye on MS SQL market share as well.

Oracle is also a vendor of a JEE stack and a Java development environment.
Note sure the "JDeveloper vs MS Visual .NET" or "OAS vs ..." .. erm...
IIS? applies, but still, saying that MS has nothing competitive in
Oracle's market segments isn't quite true.
(hm... okay, .NET has nothing comparable to a JEE application server)

cheers
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