Hello,

I haven't mixed SUSE kde with stock kde...

killing won't work... kill -9 <proc number> doesn't work... in fact it is 
impossible to kill any of the X processes...
Yesterday I updated every rpm-package I have installed... Just now It happend 
once again. This time it was kopete, which caused the trouble (at least I 
think so): I was sending a message over the icqprotocol and suddenly the the 
window turned pale and freezed. Then the keyboard got stuck and I did a 
ctrl-alt-backspace, since all the other keys got barred. 
The ctrl-alt-backspace let the X disappear (but the process was still running) 
but after that it didn't restart. Then the usual: changing runlevels, kill -9 
and some other useless stuff. Eventually a reset did the "trick".. grrrr!

How can kopete upset the kernel in such a way, that one can no more kill any X 
processes? The keyboard got freezed and I had to do a restart (which didn't 
work -> reset on the mainboard)

For now I will try to install a new kdenetwork3-InstantMessenger package (I 
already have kdenetwork3-InstantMessenger-3.5.5-41.2). Probably SuSE 10.3 
will provide a new one - including kopete 0.12.4....

Any suggestions? New Kernel (the one shipping with opensuse10.3)?

It's got to be a kernel problem!?? What might encourage the system to no more 
react to kill signals? Tasklet/Softirq problem?

After all I have a standard openSUSE 10.2 system here on my Athlon X2, it 
might be possible, that other folks get irritated by the same problem (I am 
just wondering whether I did something naughty here with my OS. Actually I am 
certain not to have done anything special)!

Is there a big difference between stack kopete and 
kdenetwork3-instantmessenger?

PS: Thank you for the message M Harris!

On Monday 30 April 2007 05:13, M Harris wrote:
> On Sunday 29 April 2007 09:56, Siegfried Wolkenstein wrote:
> > sometimes kde or x just hangs.... I can not even kill any kde programme
> > after it happens. I am able to kill X by doing a "ctrl-alt-backspace",
> > but after that, X doesn't restart - even if I change the runlevel from 5
> > to 3 and then to 5 again. After reinitialising runlevel 5, X simply won't
> > start...
>
>       This is very unusual. toggling between runlevel 3 & 5 normally fixes
> things that go crash in the X night.
>
> > If I try to restart the machine it hangs while trying to kill any
> > programme started in the X-Shells...
>
>       You will need to find the process number that has everything tied up...
> killing them thoughtfully one by one (from the bottom) is one way to handle
> this... a little experience will tell you which to try first... but
> obviously anything having to do with X, kde, or anything that may touch the
> video in any obscure way (gaming, etc). If the normal kill doesn't get it
> then a hard kill will be required (use with caution):
>       kill -9 <proc number>    as root.
>
>       Have you mixed and matched SUSE kde with stock kde?
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Kind regards,
>
> M Harris     <><
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