Marcus Meissner wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 05:11:17PM +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
>> Richard Creighton wrote:
>>
>>>>   
>>> It's about time that the updater program and more generally Yast
>>> installer provide the OPTION to backup any files it deletes to either
>>> the trashcan or to a special directory for the purpose of providing the
>>> ability to recover from the increasing number of bad updates, kernels
>>> and other software that is currently just deleting what is often
>>> perfectly good (read operating) software and replacing it with a 'fix'
>>> that too often really 'fixes' things, to the point of being unable to
>>> run.  
>>>
>>> Kernel updates or other critical software like Yast modules, often well
>>> intentioned updates will have unintended and sometimes fatal
>>> consequences and it leaves you with no alternatives but to reinstall
>>> from who knows where.  
>> Richard,
>>
>> I cannot agree more.
>>
>> Imho your suggestion to have a backup way of installing updates, is one
>> step.
>> The other essential thing I see necessary is quality control BEFORE an
>> update is released to the public.
> 
> The QA for box updates QA is limited. 
> 
> We however test them internally from our staging server.
> 
> The problem is that this update was checked in and immediately released
> afterwards, which should not have happened.
> 
> If some days / the weekend had been inbetween checkin and release
> (as is usual), our internal updates would have caught this and not the
> general public.
> 
> We have btw now publictesting update branches prepared for external
> update testing too, but currently these are not staged yet to the outside.
> 
> Ciao, Marcus
> 
Thanks much Marcus. I appreciate that things are improving and, again, I
understand that QA for box updates needs to be limited in comparison to
QA for "paid support" products.

Thanks again and kind regards

Eberhard

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