Pat,

What would the performance difference be between the current implementation of
ValueStack.findValue() vs the OGNL-implemented one? In all my profiling,
ValueStack.findValue() always pops to the top as the method that takes the
longest.

Regards,
--Bill

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:opensymphony-webwork-admin@;lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of
> Patrick Lightbody
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Re: OGNL
>
>
> Yup yup...
>
> One note (just to keep everyone aware and maybe they can think of better
> ideas):
>
> ValueStack.findValue() does not use BeanUtil to find values (it does it's
> own reflection). One thing that would be nice would be to change findValue()
> to use Ognl in the future for getting properties from beans. Then, in order
> to make it possible to type-convert back to original form (I'll keep using
> the MM/dd/yyyy example), findValue must be able to take an a Class to find
> the value as:
>
> findValue(String expr) {
>  return findValue(expr, Object.class);
> }
>
> findValue(String expr, Class clazz) {
> ....
> // I need a property from a bean
> Ognl.getValue(bean, context, expr, clazz);
> ....
> }
>
> Overall, I think the ValueStack is a very useful feature, but it could be
> "more informed" so to speak. For example, in Ognl, the context will hold the
> type converter that is to be used for the get/setValue operation. If in
> XWork (again, all hypothetical) you can configure global/bean/property-level
> type-converters, then when the above Ognl.getValue() call is made, the
> context must have the right type-converter set. This is somewhat tough (if
> not impossible) given the current ValueStack design.
>
> The ValueStack is a dumb stack, so to speak. It's very, very UNinformed. It
> does the job, but it doesn't know the context in which it's doing it in. And
> the value stack GETS values from beans (think Ognl.getValue). This is very
> different from the dispatchers (GenericDispatcher), where the code is very,
> very INformed. It knows exactly the context it's running in and therefore
> can SET bean values correctly (think Ognl.setValue). So this mix-match
> between the dispatch and the ValueStack is bad and should be fixed in
> version 2.0.
>
> -Pat
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Maurice Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 10:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Re: OGNL
>
>
> >
> > Chris Miller wrote:
> >
> > >Maurice's point about stability before functionality is of course
> extremely
> > >valid too, but if Pat is keen to code this on a branch in the meantime I
> > >can't see any reason to discourage him.
> > >
> > >
> > Let me let everyone know a little bit more about where I'm coming from
> > on this.  Of the new code in CVS that has caused so many problems,
> > Patrick and myself are the two of the main contributers.  Neither of us
> > has done good job on quality with that code and Rickard rightfully
> > chewed our asses for it.
> >
> > I feel that if you add code to the CVS repository you have the
> > responsibility of leaving it at least as good and hopefully better than
> > before.  To make things right I am working on the new testsuite, trying
> > to find bugs, and working my way through the bugs in Jira.
> >
> > I think Patrick feels much the same way that I do, so the OGNL stuff can
> > wait a little longer.
> >
> > -Maurice
> >
> >
> > >
> > >"Hani Suleiman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:1036517903.3dc8020f7b62a@;mail.formicary.net...
> > >
> > >
> > >>Well, the ognl stuff seems very promising, how about having it
> implemented
> > >>
> > >>
> > >on a
> > >
> > >
> > >>branch (say, OGNL_1 or something), with a view to integrating it once
> > >>
> > >>
> > >others
> > >
> > >
> > >>have had a look and feel it's worthwhile?
> > >>
> > >>Again, I stress that the goal for adding it (from my perspective at
> least)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >is
> > >
> > >
> > >>performance. There should be NO configuration changes, and absolutely NO
> > >>external changes. The only different (hopefully) will be superior
> > >>
> > >>
> > >performance on
> > >
> > >
> > >>the branch version. If it ends up being
> ugly/unusable/slow/unfashionable,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >the
> > >
> > >
> > >>branch can merrily die off, if it's useful/pretty/a positive step, it
> can
> > >>
> > >>
> > >land
> > >
> > >
> > >>on HEAD. Any objections?
> > >>
> > >>
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