I was working with 5.1 which used JSPs but that product was a bit of joke.
I spent most of my time decompiling their classes just to see how things
were suppose to work. It's also a complete joke to install a beefy
machine. Having a  dispatcher configured through the Database is overkill
in the extreme.

It took something like 15 minutes for my IBM Test Environment to load
their ejbs.

If I had to do that project all over again I'd chuck all IBM software and
work with an Opensource framework.

On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Måns af Klercker wrote:

> Oh yes... We're working on a major project using Commerce Suite 4. The
> funniest thing is actually the little secret tools that IBM uses internally
> to make everything work (sorta') decently. The official tools don't really
> do what they are supposed to, of course.
>
> BTW, has anyone ever worked on a project using IBM WS Commerce Suite and
> WebWork? I'd be interested to see examples and use-cases of integrating
> webwork actions with Commerce Suite commands. We might have a project coming
> up doing just that...
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: den 18 december 2002 14:03
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] Websphere portal server to Webwork, help
> > please !
> >
> >
> > Are portal servers just a marketing tool or are they actually useful?
> >
> > Can anybody explain the typical featureset of a portal server?
> >
> > On my last project I had to use Websphere Commerce Suite by IBM and if
> > you've not seen that think of 250+ fine grained entity beans all deployed
> > in one jar.
> >
> > On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Måns af Klercker wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Joel!
> > >
> > > The founder of WebWork, XDoclet and some other cool OSS,
> > Rickard =D6berg,
> > > works at a company selling a product based on the mentioned
> > Portlet API. It
> > > also uses WebWork a lot, from what I gather. He is active on
> > this list, so
> > > getting in touch with him and his company could possibly be
> > worthwhile to
> > > you!
> > >
> > > He posted some links here a few weeks ago with some links to
> > portal sites
> > > they had implemented. Search the archives...
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > /M=E5ns
> > >   -----Original Message-----
> > >   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of Joel
> > > Cordonnier
> > >   Sent: den 18 december 2002 10:37
> > >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   Subject: [OS-webwork] Websphere portal server to Webwork,
> > help please !
> > >
> > >
> > >   Hi
> > >
> > >   My company has a client (one of the big 3 'Reiseportal' application in
> > > Germany) which has bought Websphere and IBM portal server one
> > year ago. The
> > > development cycle is very very bad, and now, we have to make
> > some proposal
> > > to use another portal framework. I already think about Webwork.
> > >
> > >   Then the question...
> > >
> > >   - IBM portal server is a mix of Apache Jetspeed and Turbine.
> > And use some
> > > "Portlet API". Is the also some API like this in WW ? That's
> > were wonderfull
> > > to plug the portlet we have.
> > >
> > >   - because this IBM portal do NOT come with session management
> > (how we can
> > > sell such a bad product ??), we program this. How portlet just
> > as for some
> > > XML, use some stylesheets and render, that all, i.e we use 5%
> > of this IBM
> > > framework.
> > >
> > >   has someone experience of how to switch quickly ?
> > >
> > >   Thanks
> > >
> > >   Joel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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