Well, it's a J2EE app in my book - personally I don't agree with Sun (see my blog's AVK rant) that a J2EE app _must_ contain EJBs, JSPs etc.
Either way (J2EE or not J2EE) people who use WW, XW, Lucene, Hibernate etc are used to XML files - that was my point. M On 18/8/03 10:37 AM, "Hani Suleiman" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) penned the words: > Just to play the devil's advocate, people using full J2EE are unlikely > to be huge xwork/webwork fans anyway. Unless of course you mean > servlets/web containers, rather than J2EE. As surprising as it is, an > app with xwork, webwork, lucene, hibernate, sitemesh, and oscache is > not a particularly J2EE app. All it uses is jdbc (now part of the core > JDK) and servlets. > > On Sunday, August 17, 2003, at 06:24 PM, Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote: > >> Anders, >> >> I have to say that this is a _bad_ idea. >> >> You can already test actions to setup xwork.xml - just instantiate the >> object, call your setter methods and run! >> >> People doing J2EE understand XML, they have to. All descriptors are >> XML. >> Xwork.xml is not _that_ complex for a hello world example, most of the >> elements are optional. >> >> However, there _is_ a problem with WW2 at the moment that if a view is >> not >> found, no debug page is shown. I think it should be ("action returned >> "input" but not "input" view found). >> >> M >> >> >> On 18/8/03 8:03 AM, "boxed" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) penned the words: >> >>> I had a discussion on #java with Epesh, and he expressed the sentiment >>> that WW2 might be turning into a too complex system which will >>> alienate >>> new users and be "popular with the gearheads and such when it leaves >>> nerd-domain". After reading the responses to the "Simplicity in WW2" >>> email I must agree that it looks like this. >>> >>> Now, to make me sound less like a whiner and more like someone with >>> good >>> ideas, here is a practical proposal: >>> >>> The way you have to declare each action in a rather complex XML config >>> file before even rudimentary testing increases the learning-curve >>> needlessly. I propose a few simple features that will help the average >>> users: >>> >>> Actions can be run with the fully qualified class name. >>> Actions map by default to >>> 1. a view document with the name of the action. >>> 2. if 1 fails, a debug document that displays a list of the exposed >>> properties and their current value. >>> >>> This will cut the amount of explaining needed for a hello world type >>> app >>> down by an entire step. Anyone else got ideas like this that will cut >>> down on the learning curve for newbies? >>> >>> Anders Hovmöller >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including >>> Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. >>> Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. >>> http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/ >>> direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Opensymphony-webwork mailing list >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including >> Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. >> Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. >> http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/ >> direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 >> _______________________________________________ >> Opensymphony-webwork mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including > Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. > Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. > http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 > _______________________________________________ > Opensymphony-webwork mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa00100003ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 _______________________________________________ Opensymphony-webwork mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork