The other benefit of experience over grad school which no one discussed
was that (if you've got a job) you get paid to get experience, as
opposed to paying for grad school.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Pan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 9:55 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] Offtopic: need advice
> 
> 
> Just to follow up:
> 
> As it turned out, I can't afford to do a master's degree 
> anyhow... plus the fact that overwhelmingly everyone is for 
> experience, and against school... ah well, just gotta pay my 
> dues as junior developer!
> 
> Thanks for the advice!
> 
> James
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Douglass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:38 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] Offtopic: need advice
> > 
> > 
> > I played french horn professionally for 10 years before I got
> > my current job
> > doing webapps. I loved being a musician, but got bored with 
> > it. Now I love
> > programming. I have no CS degree, but I wish I did. I take 
> > online classes
> > and have the Java Programmer's Certificate because I want to 
> > have paper
> > credentials in addition to know-how.
> > 
> > -Robert Douglass
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Behalf Of 
> > Jason Carreira
> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:21 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] Offtopic: need advice
> > 
> > 
> > I got a job doing web site design while I was in college... 
> We started 
> > doing Cold Fusion web app development in '95, so I learned 
> SQL and web 
> > app development... Around '98 I got bored with CF and 
> started teaching 
> > myself Java and OO (I'd done some OO w/ C++ in college when I was a 
> > Physics major, but that's another story)...
> > 
> > This is why I laugh at job postings requiring a BS in Comp
> > Sci or even a
> > Masters/PhD in CS. A lot of the really good people in this 
> > industry I've
> > met came from other disciplines and got into this because 
> they really
> > enjoy it. I know a lot of people with degrees in CS who either don't
> > like the work or just put in their 40 hrs/week and go home.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Francisco Hernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 7:46 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Offtopic: need advice
> > >
> > >
> > > How did you end up going from photography to computer programming?
> > >
> > > Jason Carreira wrote:
> > >
> > > > You mean which is more valuable? Depends on where you're
> > > working and
> > > > what you were working on. In general, I'd say work 
> experience, but 
> > > > then I have a Bachelor of Fine Arts in Photography and no
> > technical
> > > > degrees whatsoever, so I'm biased :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: James Pan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 12:26 PM
> > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>Subject: [OS-webwork] Offtopic: need advice
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Hello,
> > > >>
> > > >>What's your opinion: Master Degree in computers (2 years), or 2 
> > > >>years of work experience?
> > > >>
> > > >>Thank you,
> > > >>
> > > >>James
> > > >>
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