Re: [OS-webwork] WebWork/2 Tool Support...

[Francisco Hernandez]

I like the idea about the tool for Dreamweaver, it would be nice to be 
able to switch between templates while in DW, and also even some 
sitemesh decoration functionality too

Peter White wrote:

Yeah, I hear you guys - WebWork's simplicity was what attracted me to it at
first. That's why I wanted to determine what the user community's needs are
before spending the additional time and effort to make the kind of stuff I'm
working on universally usable.
Even though WebWork is pretty simple to use, my main reason for using code
generation is productivity. The way I look at it, I'm going to manually
create my Hibernate mapping files anyway but why not have a tool that will
generate my POJOs, DAOs, WebWork Actions & JSPs from my mapping files
(Sorry, I've caught the code generation bug)? Sure, I could easily write all
that stuff manually but generating it makes it consistent and easy to modify
on a global scale as well as simple to rapidly prototype an application.
Believe me, I was wishing I had already written my JSP generator when the
quoting syntax had changed for the UI tags a while ago, it would have saved
me a lot of manual updates.
While typing this reply, I noticed Francisco's response as well - seems that
the consensus is (so far) it can't get much easier than it already is. Let
me throw out another idea I have that I forgot to mention in my initial
post. I don't know if we have any Dreamweaver users out there but a visual
design tool it pretty useless with custom UI tags. I noticed that the Sophia
framework has extended Dreamweaver to be able to use their custom UI tags
and have them display in Dreamweaver as if they were native HTML tags. Do
any of you WebWork users out there use Dreamweaver and wish you had this
functionality?
If I'm the only one who thinks any of this stuff might be useful, it's
probably because I have a little extra time on my hands and I'm looking for
an itch to scratch. ;-) If that's the case, I'm ok with that and have a few
other non-WebWork related ideas in my queue that I could spend my extra
cycles on. Either way, please continue to let me know your thoughts on this
subject.
 

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Jason Carreira
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:41 PM
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Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] WebWork/2 Tool Support...

Yes, please keep messages on this list. I'm all for tools to 
make things easy, so go for it and I'll help where I can. I 
agree with Hani that one of the main reasons for the lack of 
tools has been that it's not annoying enough when doing the 
config setup to make someone want to build them :-) The same 
goes for Xdoclet support. It's about as complicated to add 
Xdoclet tags as it is to just add the configuration.

   

-----Original Message-----
From: Hani Suleiman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] WebWork/2 Tool Support...
I think that for now at least, this traffic might as well 
     

stay on this 
   

list. If a significant portion ends up being a discussion of the 
peculiarities of particular tools/extensions, then we can 
     

worry about 
   

splitting off the list.

Secondly, one of the reasons that there traditionally 
     

hasn't been such 
   

a strong demand for tools to make life easier (pretty much 
     

non in ww1 
   

and very few in ww2) is the simplicity of configuration, which has 
always been a big goal of both projects I believe. You 
     

don't need to 
   

be an expert or even particularly bright to be up and running and 
happily adding new views and so on, so fewer people end up 
     

thinking 'I 
   

wish there were a tool to make this easier'
     





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