Yeah, I've decided to nix a "Struts Studio" type solution based on the
feedback I've received so far. However, I've been looking for an excuse to
do a Dreamweaver extension since I plan on reusing the experience I'll gain
on a future project. At the moment, I'm about half way there - I've already
figured out how to create a WebWork tab/bar and populate it with icons which
generate the webwork UI tags. I've also built my first property sheet so the
only real challenge left is figuring out how to create translators so the
tags render in Dreamweaver correctly. I'll be looking for volunteers to give
me some feedback on this as soon as I figure out the translator part...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Patrick Lightbody
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:26 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] WebWork/2 Tool Support...
> 
> Keep in mind that there IS a GUI editor for XWork that is 
> included with XWork.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Peter White
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 3:28 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] WebWork/2 Tool Support...
> 
> Good enough for me, I'm looking into it. :-) 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of 
> > Jason Carreira
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 5:48 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] WebWork/2 Tool Support...
> > 
> > Dreamweaver support would be excellent. 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Peter White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:22 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] WebWork/2 Tool Support...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yeah, I hear you guys - WebWork's simplicity was what
> > attracted me to
> > > it at first. That's why I wanted to determine what the user 
> > > community's needs are before spending the additional time
> > and effort
> > > to make the kind of stuff I'm working on universally usable.
> > > 
> > > Even though WebWork is pretty simple to use, my main reason
> > for using
> > > code generation is productivity. The way I look at it, 
> I'm going to 
> > > manually create my Hibernate mapping files anyway but why
> > not have a
> > > tool that will generate my POJOs, DAOs, WebWork Actions &
> > JSPs from my
> > > mapping files (Sorry, I've caught the code generation 
> bug)? Sure, I 
> > > could easily write all that stuff manually but generating
> > it makes it
> > > consistent and easy to modify on a global scale as well as
> > simple to
> > > rapidly prototype an application. Believe me, I was wishing I had 
> > > already written my JSP generator when the quoting syntax
> > had changed
> > > for the UI tags a while ago, it would have saved me a lot 
> of manual 
> > > updates.
> > > 
> > > While typing this reply, I noticed Francisco's response as well - 
> > > seems that the consensus is (so far) it can't get much
> > easier than it
> > > already is. Let me throw out another idea I have that I forgot to 
> > > mention in my initial post. I don't know if we have any 
> Dreamweaver 
> > > users out there but a visual design tool it pretty useless
> > with custom
> > > UI tags. I noticed that the Sophia framework has extended
> > Dreamweaver
> > > to be able to use their custom UI tags and have them display in 
> > > Dreamweaver as if they were native HTML tags. Do any of 
> you WebWork 
> > > users out there use Dreamweaver and wish you had this 
> functionality?
> > > 
> > > If I'm the only one who thinks any of this stuff might be
> > useful, it's
> > > probably because I have a little extra time on my hands and I'm 
> > > looking for an itch to scratch. ;-) If that's the case, 
> I'm ok with 
> > > that and have a few other non-WebWork related ideas in my
> > queue that I
> > > could spend my extra cycles on. Either way, please continue
> > to let me
> > > know your thoughts on this subject.
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf
> > > > Of Jason Carreira
> > > > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:41 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] WebWork/2 Tool Support...
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, please keep messages on this list. I'm all for 
> tools to make 
> > > > things easy, so go for it and I'll help where I can. I 
> agree with 
> > > > Hani that one of the main reasons for the lack of tools 
> has been 
> > > > that it's not annoying enough when doing the config 
> setup to make 
> > > > someone want to build them :-) The same goes for 
> Xdoclet support.
> > > > It's about as complicated to add Xdoclet tags as it is to
> > just add
> > > > the configuration.
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Hani Suleiman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:21 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] WebWork/2 Tool Support...
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think that for now at least, this traffic might as well
> > > > stay on this
> > > > > list. If a significant portion ends up being a
> > discussion of the
> > > > > peculiarities of particular tools/extensions, then we can
> > > > worry about
> > > > > splitting off the list.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Secondly, one of the reasons that there traditionally
> > > > hasn't been such
> > > > > a strong demand for tools to make life easier (pretty much
> > > > non in ww1
> > > > > and very few in ww2) is the simplicity of
> > configuration, which has
> > > > > always been a big goal of both projects I believe. You
> > > > don't need to
> > > > > be an expert or even particularly bright to be up and
> > running and
> > > > > happily adding new views and so on, so fewer people end up
> > > > thinking 'I
> > > > > wish there were a tool to make this easier'
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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