Dreamweaver support would be excellent. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:22 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] WebWork/2 Tool Support...
> 
> 
> Yeah, I hear you guys - WebWork's simplicity was what 
> attracted me to it at first. That's why I wanted to determine 
> what the user community's needs are before spending the 
> additional time and effort to make the kind of stuff I'm 
> working on universally usable.
> 
> Even though WebWork is pretty simple to use, my main reason 
> for using code generation is productivity. The way I look at 
> it, I'm going to manually create my Hibernate mapping files 
> anyway but why not have a tool that will generate my POJOs, 
> DAOs, WebWork Actions & JSPs from my mapping files (Sorry, 
> I've caught the code generation bug)? Sure, I could easily 
> write all that stuff manually but generating it makes it 
> consistent and easy to modify on a global scale as well as 
> simple to rapidly prototype an application. Believe me, I was 
> wishing I had already written my JSP generator when the 
> quoting syntax had changed for the UI tags a while ago, it 
> would have saved me a lot of manual updates.
> 
> While typing this reply, I noticed Francisco's response as 
> well - seems that the consensus is (so far) it can't get much 
> easier than it already is. Let me throw out another idea I 
> have that I forgot to mention in my initial post. I don't 
> know if we have any Dreamweaver users out there but a visual 
> design tool it pretty useless with custom UI tags. I noticed 
> that the Sophia framework has extended Dreamweaver to be able 
> to use their custom UI tags and have them display in 
> Dreamweaver as if they were native HTML tags. Do any of you 
> WebWork users out there use Dreamweaver and wish you had this 
> functionality?
> 
> If I'm the only one who thinks any of this stuff might be 
> useful, it's probably because I have a little extra time on 
> my hands and I'm looking for an itch to scratch. ;-) If 
> that's the case, I'm ok with that and have a few other 
> non-WebWork related ideas in my queue that I could spend my 
> extra cycles on. Either way, please continue to let me know 
> your thoughts on this subject.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> > Behalf Of Jason Carreira
> > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:41 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] WebWork/2 Tool Support...
> > 
> > Yes, please keep messages on this list. I'm all for tools to
> > make things easy, so go for it and I'll help where I can. I 
> > agree with Hani that one of the main reasons for the lack of 
> > tools has been that it's not annoying enough when doing the 
> > config setup to make someone want to build them :-) The same 
> > goes for Xdoclet support. It's about as complicated to add 
> > Xdoclet tags as it is to just add the configuration.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hani Suleiman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:21 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] WebWork/2 Tool Support...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I think that for now at least, this traffic might as well
> > stay on this
> > > list. If a significant portion ends up being a discussion of the
> > > peculiarities of particular tools/extensions, then we can 
> > worry about
> > > splitting off the list.
> > > 
> > > Secondly, one of the reasons that there traditionally
> > hasn't been such
> > > a strong demand for tools to make life easier (pretty much
> > non in ww1
> > > and very few in ww2) is the simplicity of configuration, which has
> > > always been a big goal of both projects I believe. You 
> > don't need to
> > > be an expert or even particularly bright to be up and running and
> > > happily adding new views and so on, so fewer people end up 
> > thinking 'I
> > > wish there were a tool to make this easier'
> 
> 
> 
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