Thanks for sharing documents, Jason. In fact, the document can easily get from the Internet; Addtionally, you probably don't know about China and chinese's college education, nowadays, many universities have offered course about linux. Maybe you don't find the right people.
2010/7/17 linux_pro <snipe...@gmail.com> > In China, this datasheet is full of the underground market. Just openwrt > not made it. > I believe that not only China, the more countries there is such a thing. > > thanks jason. > thanks florian. > > 2010/7/16 Spudz76 <spud...@gmail.com> > > They have these datasheets and STILL can't do it. ouch. >> >> jason duhamell wrote: >> >>> I would like to hire people to move to china, I am sick of the people >>> building stuff not knowing what they are building. Education is a huge >>> problem in china and not many universities teach linux. If anybody would >>> like to discuss that, feel free to join in the conversation. >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Spudz76 <spud...@gmail.com <mailto: >>> spud...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm positive it's not his own NDA that is being violated, he's >>> just resourceful and weird things happen in China. He never made >>> such an agreement and is not bound by the scary little grey >>> watermarks, and neither are we. The only people or projects at >>> any real risk here are whoever leaked it and broke their NDA >>> contract, but then Atheros would have to be smart enough to >>> individually tag each released PDF with an identifier that can't >>> be scrubbed or modified in order to trace a leak back to its >>> source. Considering this PDF doesn't even have the simple options >>> enabled for "no print" and "no cut/paste" I completely doubt they >>> did any of that. Also it was generated by "cairo graphics", an >>> open source graphics package with a PDF output generator, so it's >>> probably already been scrubbed or Atheros is too cheap to use real >>> Adobe software to generate its datasheets. >>> >>> Technically most of the reverse engineering that goes on in order >>> for this project to exist in the first place is just as dangerous >>> and/or illegal. There is code from improperly packaged GPL >>> tarballs that still has "Broadcom Proprietary Do Not Distribute" >>> or at least their copyright in the headers, and >>> Linksys/Belkin/whoever didn't get legally kicked in the balls for it. >>> >>> Basically it would cost them more to chase and enforce their NDA >>> than it would be worth, on a product this old. They already moved >>> on to the AR9xxx series, and that's what they would more likely >>> stomp on people for, if even. >>> >>> Of course still toss in the token "We can't be involved with this >>> type of thing" as a good measure, but then don't negate it >>> completely by basically saying "but I still want these if you >>> email me secretly" in more or less the same sentence. You might >>> as well have just said thanks. >>> >>> Florian Fainelli wrote: >>> >>> On Friday 16 July 2010 15:05:51 jason duhamell wrote: >>> >>> fuck them. open source all the way. >>> >>> >>> You can express your point of view, I do not really care, but >>> you do not have to impact the project in its whole by >>> violating your own NDA and pushing such a datasheet in a >>> public mailing-list. >>> >>> What happens if Atheros wants to take down the site? >>> >>> Think twice before you type Send please. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Florian Fainelli >>> <flor...@openwrt.org <mailto:flor...@openwrt.org>>wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Friday 16 July 2010 14:59:03 Roman Yeryomin wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Jason, datasheet is always valuable stuff! >>> >>> Yeah especially if you are not allowed to distribute it. >>> >>> Please send such stuff in private in order not to >>> compromise the project >>> with >>> potential legal issues. >>> -- >>> Florian >>> _______________________________________________ >>> openwrt-devel mailing list >>> openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org >>> <mailto:openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org> >>> >>> https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> openwrt-devel mailing list >>> openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org >>> <mailto:openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org> >>> >>> https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> openwrt-devel mailing list >>> openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org >>> <mailto:openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org> >>> >>> https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> openwrt-devel mailing list >>> openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org >>> https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> openwrt-devel mailing list >> openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org >> https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > openwrt-devel mailing list > openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org > https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel > >
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