That is easy for somebody to say like you. Can anybody else on this mailing list say they found the ar2317 datasheet over the internet? What is your definition of many? My experience comes from living in china for 3 years. Statistically most chinese universities don't do anything with linux.
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 11:30 AM, tedunix <tedu...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for sharing documents, Jason. In fact, the document can easily get > from the Internet; Addtionally, you probably don't know about China and > chinese's college education, nowadays, many universities have offered course > about linux. Maybe you don't find the right people. > > > > 2010/7/17 linux_pro <snipe...@gmail.com> > > In China, this datasheet is full of the underground market. Just openwrt >> not made it. >> I believe that not only China, the more countries there is such a thing. >> >> thanks jason. >> thanks florian. >> >> 2010/7/16 Spudz76 <spud...@gmail.com> >> >> They have these datasheets and STILL can't do it. ouch. >>> >>> jason duhamell wrote: >>> >>>> I would like to hire people to move to china, I am sick of the people >>>> building stuff not knowing what they are building. Education is a huge >>>> problem in china and not many universities teach linux. If anybody would >>>> like to discuss that, feel free to join in the conversation. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Spudz76 <spud...@gmail.com <mailto: >>>> spud...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm positive it's not his own NDA that is being violated, he's >>>> just resourceful and weird things happen in China. He never made >>>> such an agreement and is not bound by the scary little grey >>>> watermarks, and neither are we. The only people or projects at >>>> any real risk here are whoever leaked it and broke their NDA >>>> contract, but then Atheros would have to be smart enough to >>>> individually tag each released PDF with an identifier that can't >>>> be scrubbed or modified in order to trace a leak back to its >>>> source. Considering this PDF doesn't even have the simple options >>>> enabled for "no print" and "no cut/paste" I completely doubt they >>>> did any of that. Also it was generated by "cairo graphics", an >>>> open source graphics package with a PDF output generator, so it's >>>> probably already been scrubbed or Atheros is too cheap to use real >>>> Adobe software to generate its datasheets. >>>> >>>> Technically most of the reverse engineering that goes on in order >>>> for this project to exist in the first place is just as dangerous >>>> and/or illegal. There is code from improperly packaged GPL >>>> tarballs that still has "Broadcom Proprietary Do Not Distribute" >>>> or at least their copyright in the headers, and >>>> Linksys/Belkin/whoever didn't get legally kicked in the balls for it. >>>> >>>> Basically it would cost them more to chase and enforce their NDA >>>> than it would be worth, on a product this old. They already moved >>>> on to the AR9xxx series, and that's what they would more likely >>>> stomp on people for, if even. >>>> >>>> Of course still toss in the token "We can't be involved with this >>>> type of thing" as a good measure, but then don't negate it >>>> completely by basically saying "but I still want these if you >>>> email me secretly" in more or less the same sentence. You might >>>> as well have just said thanks. >>>> >>>> Florian Fainelli wrote: >>>> >>>> On Friday 16 July 2010 15:05:51 jason duhamell wrote: >>>> >>>> fuck them. open source all the way. >>>> >>>> >>>> You can express your point of view, I do not really care, but >>>> you do not have to impact the project in its whole by >>>> violating your own NDA and pushing such a datasheet in a >>>> public mailing-list. >>>> >>>> What happens if Atheros wants to take down the site? >>>> >>>> Think twice before you type Send please. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Florian Fainelli >>>> <flor...@openwrt.org <mailto:flor...@openwrt.org>>wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday 16 July 2010 14:59:03 Roman Yeryomin wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Jason, datasheet is always valuable stuff! >>>> >>>> Yeah especially if you are not allowed to distribute it. >>>> >>>> Please send such stuff in private in order not to >>>> compromise the project >>>> with >>>> potential legal issues. >>>> -- >>>> Florian >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> openwrt-devel mailing list >>>> openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org >>>> <mailto:openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org> >>>> >>>> https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> openwrt-devel mailing list >>>> openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org >>>> <mailto:openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org> >>>> >>>> https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> openwrt-devel mailing list >>>> openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org >>>> <mailto:openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org> >>>> >>>> https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> openwrt-devel mailing list >>>> openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org >>>> https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> openwrt-devel mailing list >>> openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org >>> https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> openwrt-devel mailing list >> openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org >> https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > openwrt-devel mailing list > openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org > https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel > >
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