Hi Tim,

Just a clarification.  
On the wiki I see this scenario listed for Colorado 1.0 - os-odl_l3-vpp-ha.
Is this accurate or is it a noha scenario?

/ Chris


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> On Sep 2, 2016, at 20:42, Tim Rozet <tro...@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't see any issue here.  Colorado 1.0 is set to use Beryllium, which is 
> already released.  Even the scenarios that require Boron (FDS/SFC) do not 
> require ODL HA, and we already have Boron RC builds that work.  ODL HA is 
> known to be buggy, so at least in Apex we don't enable it.
> 
> Tim Rozet
> Red Hat SDN Team
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David McBride" <dmcbr...@linuxfoundation.org>
> To: "Christopher Price" <chrispric...@gmail.com>
> Cc: opnfv-project-le...@lists.opnfv.org, "TECH-DISCUSS OPNFV" 
> <opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 1:24:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [opnfv-project-leads] [opnfv-tech-discuss] [release][hackfest]   
>  Release Milestone Review presentation
> 
> Chris, 
> 
> As I understand it, some projects are planning to use Beryllium. Do we know 
> if the blockers effect both Beryllium and Boron, or is it just Boron? If it's 
> just Boron, then the projects that depend on Beryllium could release at 
> Colorado 1.0, while the projects that depend on Boron could release at 
> Colorado 2.0 or 3.0. 
> 
> In fact, I heard from Greg Elkinbard, yesterday, who said that scenarios 
> running on Fuel will be transitioning to Boron for Colorado 2.0. 
> 
> David 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 2:36 AM, Christopher Price < chrispric...@gmail.com > 
> wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Folks, 
> 
> 
> 
> Hard rules can be hard to find in an environment like ours. J 
> 
> I think we need in some cases to have “expectations” and allow the release 
> project to evaluate how those “expectations” are met. In other cases, the 
> “expectations” are pretty straightforward. 
> 
> 
> 
> We need to somehow articulate our developmental and testing needs while 
> making room for the fact that we are not in complete control of our 
> dependencies. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> For example, I was on the OpenDaylight TSC call yesterday and they are 
> considering a potential small delay in their release dates due to some 
> “blockers” on OpenFlowPlugin and NetVirt specifically for HA. These blockers 
> impact us directly. These issues may further result in a delay for the ODL 
> release version to be built and made available. 
> 
> 
> 
> We have 2 options to take here: 
> 
> 1) Take an older version of ODL, that we know has issues directly related to 
> our use of ODL. 
> (carry these blocking bugs through Colorado 1.0) 
> 
> 2) Iterate our version and take in the release that fixes the blocking bugs. 
> 
> 
> 
> This relates very much to the fact that resolving issues in our own 
> troubleshooting is for the most part dependent on upstream communities being 
> able to resolve issues we identify. (or finding workarounds) 
> 
> 
> 
> In my mind it is very hard to find a “rule” we can apply here as each 
> situation is different. 
> 
> For this example I believe the best way to solve this would be to have a 
> phase at “code freeze” where we discuss issues and manage the patches that we 
> allow into the release. Maybe this is something to consider for D release 
> where David could arrange a small team that facilitates these decisions after 
> code freeze. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> For now, David has only one recourse and that is to ask the TSC for a 
> decision on patches and version stepping. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I do hope however that we can work together for D to continue to drive for a 
> methodology that keeps us from a massive rush in the last months but enables 
> fast and efficient integration of new code… 
> 
> 
> 
> / Chris 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: < opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org > on behalf of Ulrich 
> Kleber < ulrich.kle...@huawei.com > 
> Date: Friday 2 September 2016 at 11:09 
> To: David McBride < dmcbr...@linuxfoundation.org >, opnfv-project-leads < 
> opnfv-project-le...@lists.opnfv.org >, TECH-DISCUSS OPNFV < 
> opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org > 
> Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [release][hackfest] Release Milestone 
> Review presentation 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi David, 
> 
> I remember we had some issues understanding the meaning of the “feature 
> freeze” milestone. 
> 
> While reading again the lessons learned, I remembered that in former projects 
> I worked on, 
> 
> we called that milestone “code complete”. These two words for me quickly 
> associate that I should 
> 
> have now created my code, but would still be able to do some changes for 
> fixing bugs. 
> 
> Just an idea. Maybe give it a thought.... 
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Uli 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org [mailto: 
> opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org ] On Behalf Of David McBride 
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 August, 2016 20:55 
> To: opnfv-project-le...@lists.opnfv.org ; TECH-DISCUSS OPNFV 
> Subject: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [release][hackfest] Release Milestone Review 
> presentation 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks to those of you that attended my presentation at the OPNFV Q3 
> Hackfest. The questions and feedback I received are welcome and very helpful. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I've posted the presentation on the wiki . Let me know if you have additional 
> questions or comments. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> David 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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