Thanks for background information.

I think the challenge is how to quantify "widely available". 50% or less is 
certainly not "widely available". Maybe 80%? 90%? If 100% is excessive. Then it 
tranlates to 4 installers (given current 5 in total), and relevant combinations.

Thanks
Bin
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Neary [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 12:41 PM
To: HU, BIN <[email protected]>; Christopher Price <[email protected]>; Tapio 
Tallgren <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [dovetail]if the l3vpn feature is completed 
fully in C release

Hi,

For my part, my understanding of this when Chris, Hongbo and myself wrote it in 
New Hampshire, our intention was to communicate that a feature was not 
elligible if it was only done for one specific stack or one installer - this 
was our best guess at communicating "widely available". I think all installers 
and all possible stack combinations would be excessive.

Thanks,
Dave.

On 01/18/2017 03:37 PM, HU, BIN wrote:
> Maybe wordsmithing, but I think "2 installers  and 2 SDN controllers" still 
> means "specific". It is just slightly loosened from "specific one" to 
> "specific two".
> 
> I believe that the essence of, and also logically, "must not require a 
> specific ..." really means "any currently available" in OPNFV.
> 
> Thanks
> Bin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave 
> Neary
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 12:20 PM
> To: Christopher Price <[email protected]>; Tapio Tallgren 
> <[email protected]>; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [dovetail]if the l3vpn feature is 
> completed fully in C release
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On 01/18/2017 03:31 AM, Christopher Price wrote:
>> I was not aware that “all installers must support” a feature for there to be 
>> a dovetail suite to validate it.  
>> Maybe we should review the “qualification criteria” again on Friday’s call.
> 
> The wording we came up with in the test requirements was:
> * Tests must not require a specific NFVi platform composition or 
> installation tool
> 
> In other words, not all, but at least 2 installers and 2 SDN controllers 
> should support the feature.
> 
> Dave.
> 
>> Completely agree that we need to do this in Gerrit.
>>
>> / chris
>>
>> On 2017-01-18, 08:59, "Tapio Tallgren" 
>> <[email protected] on behalf of 
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>     On 01/18/2017 12:53 AM, Dave Neary wrote:
>>     > Hi Hongbo, Jose,
>>     >
>>     > As I was saying on the Dovetail calls, I have some concerns about 
>> moving
>>     > tests into the Dovetail test suite too early.
>>     >
>>     > In the Dovetail test requirements, we have:
>>     >
>>     > "* Test cases must pass on OPNFV reference deployments
>>     >    * Tests must not require a specific NFVi platform composition or
>>     > installation tool
>>     >    * Tests must not require unmerged patches to the relevant upstream
>>     > projects"
>>     >
>>     > And in the CVP requirements, we have the following section:
>>     >
>>     > "The overall CVP compliance verification scope tied to an OPNFV release
>>     > is determined by the Committee. The OPNFV TSC defines and maintains the
>>     > compliance verification procedures and associated tools. The scope is
>>     > constrained to features, capabilities, components, and interfaces
>>     > included in an OPNFV release that are generally available in the
>>     > industry (e.g., through adoption by an upstream community)."
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > I wonder if this functionality is sufficiently widely adopted in
>>     > commercial NFVi and VIM solutions to pass this bar.
>>     >
>>     > Thanks,
>>     > Dave.
>>     
>>     I have no opinion about L3VPN as such, but I read this to mean that the 
>>     code should be part of a released upstream projects and that OPNFV 
>>     installers should all support it.
>>     
>>     What would be the best way to discuss these? Currently, the test cases 
>>     are on a wiki page which makes it a little difficult to comment them. 
>>     Would it make sense to copy the whole test areas and test cases wiki 
>>     page to an Etherpad? Or should the whole page be put to gerrit for 
>>     commenting?
>>     
>>     -Tapio
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