I agree with Mark. Also be aware that functest documentation needs an
update. For example the devguide is still describing Euphrates release:
https://opnfv-functest.readthedocs.io/en/stable-
gambia/testing/developer/devguide/index.html#functest-util-classes and
there are commands which don't work anymore in the user guide: https://
opnfv-functest.readthedocs.io/en/stable-
gambia/testing/user/userguide/runfunctest.html (e.g. functest testcase
list). Probably a section about Xtesting would help there and also
covering developer use cases: several weeks ago I had trouble to
activate the SFC testcases as it was not described that I had to modify
the yaml config file.
Besides, we are an open source community and as our community code of
conduct says, we should have 100% transparency. Pointing to our
weaknesses in public or ask questions is not bad, on the contrary:
No one should be afraid of asking questions or making mistakes.  Some
may not know how to express themselves or may feel intimidated, and
community members should encourage people to simply participate the
best they can and people will not be judged.  
Regards,Manuel
On Mon, 2019-04-01 at 13:30 +0000, Mark Beierl wrote:
> With all due respect, I would not call David’s message damaging.
>  
> In the software/releases Wiki space,, there is only one passing
> reference to Xtesting put in place by you starting around April 9,
> 2018.  Note: David is a release manager, and as such closely follows
> the releases.  If Xtesting is not releases,
>  then it is perfectly understandable that he is not aware of it.
>  
> When I search for Xtesting in the wiki, I get references to pages
> that refer to “collivier” in sources.  I would definitely not have
> considered those to be part of OPNFV, so if Xtesting is supposed to
> be official, then please do make it
>  so and host it via LFN.
>  
> 
> Regards,
> Mark
>  
> Mark Beierl
> SW System Sr Principal Developer
> Dell EMC |
>  Cloud & Communication Service Provider Solution
> 
> mark.bei...@dell.com
>  
> 
> From: <opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org> on behalf of Cedric
> OLLIVIER <ollivier.ced...@gmail.com>
> 
> Date: Saturday, March 30, 2019 at 13:12
> 
> To: "HU, BIN" <bh5...@att.com>, "Cooper, Trevor" <trevor.cooper@intel
> .com>, "opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org" <opnfv-tech-discuss@lists
> .opnfv.org>, "test...@lists.opnfv.org" <test...@lists.opnfv.org>
> 
> Cc: "dmcbr...@linuxfoundation.org" <dmcbr...@linuxfoundation.org>,
> Pierre Lynch <pierre.ly...@keysight.com>, "Limingjiang (Rex)" <liming
> ji...@huawei.com>, Heather Kirksey <hkirk...@linuxfoundation.org>, "c
> edric.olliv...@orange.com" <cedric.olliv...@orange.com>
> 
> Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS Un-conference topic - Leverage
> OPNFV Test Frameworks
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> [EXTERNAL EMAIL] 
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Who is the target audience here? internal or external?
> 
> 
> At firth glance, I would have considered internal discussions to
> prevent from next damaging public messages like the next 2 email sent
> to ONAP TSC and OPNFV TSC.
> 
> 
> https://lists.onap.org/g/onap-tsc/message/4804
> 
> 
> https://lists.opnfv.org/g/opnfv-tsc/message/5050?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Creat
> ed,,Lack+of+developers,20,2,0,29775334
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> We have given lots of speechs in the last ONS summits about that
> topic and it seems we are still unsuccessfull in OPNFV (and our tools
> are already reused by LFN projects)
> 
> 
> https://sched.co/EF9Z
> 
> 
> https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/opnfvs-6th-release-brings-te
> sting-capabilities-that-orange-is-already-using/2018/05/
> 
> 
> https://sched.co/Fmsd
> 
> 
> https://sched.co/LKU3
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> + OPNFV Hackfest/Plugest
> 
> 
> http://testresults.opnfv.org/functest/gambia/
> 
> 
> http://testresults.opnfv.org/functest/functest2019/
> 
> 
> etc...
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Yes Xtesting is hosted by OPNFV (Functest).
> 
> 
> It's worth mentioning that Bitergia quickly highlights that more than
> 50% of the overall code contribution in OPNFV from the beginning of
> the year is about Functest and its subprojects.
> 
> 
> It should be even bigger if we take the other OPNFV test frameworks
> into account.
> 
> 
> https://opnfv.biterg.io/app/kibana
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Cédric
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Le jeudi 28 mars 2019 à 18:54 +0000, HU, BIN a écrit :
> 
> > Great, Trevor, thank you for leading this effort.
> >  
> > Would you add this topic in 
> > https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/EVNT, where we collect OPNFV related
> > topics for ONS so that people will have an overall insight of all
> > OPNFV related activities in ONS?
> >  
> > Thank you
> > Bin
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > From: test...@lists.opnfv.org <test...@lists.opnfv.org>
> > On Behalf Of Cooper, Trevor
> > 
> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 11:51 AM
> > 
> > To: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org; test...@lists.opnfv.org
> > 
> > Cc: dmcbr...@linuxfoundation.org; Pierre Lynch <pierre.lynch@keysig
> > ht.com>; Limingjiang (Rex) <limingji...@huawei.com>
> > 
> > Subject: [test-wg] ONS Un-conference topic - Leverage OPNFV Test
> > Frameworks
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > Based on a discussion in the Test Working Group today I have added
> > this proposed un-conference topic on testing. We are looking for
> > volunteers to help lead the discussion, please consider adding your
> > name
> >  and creating awareness with other LFN communities that may be
> > interested.
> > https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/display/LN/Open+Networking+Summit+Nor
> > th+America+2019+-+Un-conference+Topic+Proposals
> >  
> >  
> > Detailed Description: OPNFV has developed significant functional
> > and performance test assets including frameworks, tools, methods,
> > test cases and test data. For an overview of the OPNFV Test
> > Ecosystem refer
> >  to 
> > https://docs.opnfv.org/en/stable-gambia/testing/ecosystem/overview.
> > html. The significant investments in OPNFV test projects and
> > related activities could be leveraged by other LFN projects that
> > require testing of integrated upstream ingredients and platforms.
> >  This discussion is to brainstorm about how to reuse existing work
> > and artifacts so that we do not reinvent proverbial wheels in this
> > arena. All ideas and input are welcome!
> >  
> > /Trevor
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