Dear OPSAWG colleagues,

As we discuss in the last meeting. An initial proposal for the 
ietf-vpn-types.yang has been developed.

Currently, the module includes the following elements:

[cid:34e591fe-b292-4b65-a85e-d9a0dc377e1d]


The module is available in the following PULL REQUEST: 
https://github.com/IETF-OPSAWG-WG/l3nm/pull/118

Regards,


Samier Barguil
Transport & IP Networks | GCTIO - Technology | CIT Centro Integrado de 
Transporte |

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De: OPSAWG <opsawg-boun...@ietf.org> en nombre de Oscar González de Dios 
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Enviado: martes, 2 de junio de 2020 12:13
Para: OPSAWG@ietf.org <OPSAWG@ietf.org>
Asunto: [OPSAWG] Minutes of L3NM/L2NM module discussions (27th-May-2020)

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Dear OPSAWG colleagues,



                Thanks for participating in the call last week in the L3NM and 
L2NM module discussions.



Please find bellow the minutes. The presented material is available in 
https://github.com/IETF-OPSAWG-WG/l3nm/blob/master/Meetings/20200528/l3nm_20200428.pptx



* Date: 27th-May-2020



3NM and L2NM module discussions

* Date: 28-May-2020

* Participants



- Oscar Gonzalez de Dios (Telefonica)

- Samier Barguil (Telefonica)

- Italo Busi (Huawei)

- Adrian Farrel (Old Dog Consulting)

- Med Boucadair (Orange)

- Luis Muñoz (Vodafone)

- Haomian Zheng (Huawei)



1. Agenda



L3NM

   - Service Types common module discussions: Proposal of 
groupings/containers/identities subject to be part of these common types to 
evaluate if it makes sense. issue 
https://github.com/IETF-OPSAWG-WG/l3nm/issues/110 It is related to 
https://github.com/IETF-OPSAWG-WG/l3nm/issues/32

   - RT / RD autoasignment https://github.com/IETF-OPSAWG-WG/l3nm/issues/114 
and https://github.com/IETF-OPSAWG-WG/l3nm/issues/20 and mailing list dicussions

   - New issue: differentiate routing vs forwarding policy 
https://github.com/IETF-OPSAWG-WG/l3nm/issues/113 Related to 
https://github.com/IETF-OPSAWG-WG/l3nm/issues/18

   - New issue: poionter to ietf routing policy? 
https://github.com/IETF-OPSAWG-WG/l3nm/issues/117

   - Cleaned issues solved in github long time ago but that had not been closed.

   - Open issues to discuss for the June call



L2NM

   - L2NM. Basic  EVPN support. Need of expert reviewer.

   - L2NM issues https://github.com/oscargdd/l2nm/issues



2. L3NM discussions





1. Service Types common module discussions: Proposal of 
groupings/containers/identities subject to be part of these common types to 
evaluate if it makes sense. issue 
https://github.com/IETF-OPSAWG-WG/l3nm/issues/110 It is related to 
https://github.com/IETF-OPSAWG-WG/l3nm/issues/32

- Oscar presents the common structures used between L3SM, L3NM and L2NM.

- Oscar Presents 1st proposal for common structures. To generate the vpn-types 
modules.

- [ITALO]: Reconciliation with the CCAMP and the client SIgnal model and the 
L2NM is still pending. Differences/similarities must be arisen.

- In ccamp the types are progressing in parallel with at least one draft

- [Med]: It will not remove complexity creating the common types. But it is 
good to avoid the dependencies..

- [Med] If we go that path, we could have in addition to types, structures?

- [Med] In L2NM we started with similar structures. It is better not to 
duplicate

- [Italo] In ccamp it is common types, but there are also groupings.

- [Med] Even for reviewing the documents, the split is good.





2.  RT / RD autoasignment (not discussed, invite Roque to next call and follow 
discussions in mailing list)

3. Discussion on policies.

[Oscar] Issue https://github.com/IETF-OPSAWG-WG/l3nm/issues/113 proposes to 
diffentiate forwarding policy (that is, policies aimed at the packets coming to 
the interface) vs routing policies (aimed at the routing protocols, either 
CE-PE or interally via MP-BGP)

[Oscar] Issue https://github.com/IETF-OPSAWG-WG/l3nm/issues/117 asks if it is 
ok to have just an id of the profile or add a leafref to where the actual 
policy is defined.

[Oscar] Is forwarding profile useful?

[Med]. Separating forwarding from routing policy is fine.

[Oscar] Do we need to add a leafref to the profile itself?

[Med]. Having just an id is fine. If we need to add more, we need to be 
consistent.

[Qin]. SUPA working group tried to abstract policies but failed. We understand 
the use cases. The confusion is why is it called "forwarding policy".

[Adrian]. Caution about opening rattle. Have a simple in hook in the module (if 
someone has implemented a policy module, go there). Just put a hook. Then, tell 
the working groups working in policies.

[Med]: for the extension to ACL, go to Netmod. Or extend it (be specific)

[Luis]: avoid extending it here.. If there is consensus on forwarding and 
routing, ok, just add the hooks.





3 L2NM discussions



  - L2NM. Basic  EVPN support. Need of expert reviewer.

[Oscar] Presented issue https://github.com/oscargdd/l2nm/issues/1

[Qin] Will find internally EVPN experts.

[Oscar] Presented issue https://github.com/oscargdd/l2nm/issues/6

[Italo] There was a similar issue in TEAS. Check with Tarek and Igor.





                Looking forward for the call on Thursday.



                Oscar

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