From: OPSAWG <opsawg-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of Warren Kumari 
<war...@kumari.net>
Sent: 22 April 2021 16:27

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 11:18 AM Douglas Gash (dcmgash) 
<dcmg...@cisco.com<mailto:dcmg...@cisco.com>> wrote:
Hi Warren,

Yes, Thorsten, Andrej and I are actively engaged, and have been joined by a new 
team member (John Heasley).

There may be one or two minor other additions to enhance security that are also 
coming along for submission to the views of the WG.

Just FYI, there are 459 people on the OpsAWG list; this means we have almost 
500 witnesses to what I'm going to interpret as "We'll have this done in a few 
days/weeks" :-)

<tp>
Warren

I will believe it when I see it on the Milestones for the WG:-)

Tom Petch


Seriously though, thank you. The TACACS YANG document was discussed recently, 
and a bunch of ADs said "Oi! We largely approved the original document on the 
understanding that you'd fix this. Pay up now..."

W




From: Warren Kumari <war...@kumari.net<mailto:war...@kumari.net>>
Date: Thursday, 22 April 2021 at 16:09
To: opsawg <opsawg@ietf.org<mailto:opsawg@ietf.org>>, Thorsten Dahm 
<thorstend...@google.com<mailto:thorstend...@google.com>>, Andrej Ota 
<and...@ota.si<mailto:and...@ota.si>>, "Douglas Gash (dcmgash)" 
<dcmg...@cisco.com<mailto:dcmg...@cisco.com>>, 
"car...@ipsec.org<mailto:car...@ipsec.org>" 
<car...@ipsec.org<mailto:car...@ipsec.org>>, 
"lol.gr...@gmail.com<mailto:lol.gr...@gmail.com>" 
<lol.gr...@gmail.com<mailto:lol.gr...@gmail.com>>
Subject: TACACS++, please...

Hi there all,

Last year we published "RFC8907 - The Terminal Access Controller Access-Control 
System Plus (TACACS+) Protocol"

This was a huge amount of work, and we are hugely grateful to the authors (and 
WG) for all of their hard work.... however, in the spirit of "no good deed goes 
unpunished"...

When we wrote this, it was with the understanding that we'd first puslish how 
TACACS+ currently works, and then a second document which, AFAIR, would 
basically say "... and now just run this over TLS, K,  thanks, done".

I'm hoping that someone, probably the original RFC8907 authors, would be 
willing to take this on?
I believe that this second document should be much much much easier....

So, RFC8907 authors, would you be willing to take this on? Please?

W


--
Perhaps they really do strive for incomprehensibility in their specs.
After all, when the liturgy was in Latin, the laity knew their place.
-- Michael Padlipsky


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complexities of his own making.
  -- E. W. Dijkstra

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