Scott,

I would have to agree with Tom on this. If you have it setup correctly then
starting the services
WILL start the database. I have 8 instances and they all start if I start
the NT services.

Rick

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Tom, You could say that I am absolutely wrong but that
would be incorrect. I have installed Oracle on NT many
times and I am correct in saying that when you start
the oracleservice<SID> this does not start the
instance or database by default. I have 8.0.6, 8.1.7
and 9.0.1 BETA installed and these instances don't
start when the service is started. I have to log into
a DOS window set ORACLE_SID=ops1 then start the
instances and database. This is the default. If I want
the instance and database to start when I start the
service I use the ORDIM.exe command to set that
feature up. I prefer not to start the instances and
database it because I run OPS and RAC on NT and I
haven't set a dependencies between the OSD services
and the Oracle SID service. If you use DataBase
Creation Assistant (DBCA) then it will not only create
a service for you instance it will setup the autostart
feature as well. However 9i NT BETA DBCA does not do
this but 8.1.7 does. I don't use DBCA. I create the
SID service using ORADIM.exe and I create the database
with scripts. The NT Oracle GUI tools will  setup all
the services. Check you registry under
HK_LOCAL_MACHINE -> SYSTEM -> CURRENTCONTROLSET ->
ORACLE* and you should see the autostart service and
check the dependencies.

Scott


--- "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Scott,
> 
> you are absolutely wrong on this one.  every
> database I am working with on
> NT starts when the service starts.  even without
> setting the AUTOSTART
> param.
> 
> Tom Mercadante
> Oracle Certified Professional
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 6:16 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Kevin, Starting the NT service for the oracle
> instance
> has never started the database in any version of
> Oracle on NT by default. I think what you have seen
> before is the use of the auto start service of the
> DB.
> This service has a dependency to the SID service, so
> when you start the SID service it would start the
> database as well. This auto start and shutdown
> feature
> can be configured through the oradim.exe command. 
> 
> If you already have the SID service create then:
> 
> oradim -edit -sid test -startmode a -pfile
> d:\ora901\database\init.ora
> 
> There is also a -startup option that will allow you
> to
> specify the password.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> --- Kevin Kostyszyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Just thought I would mention this interesting
> little
> > feature.  Now I don't
> > know if I am an idiot or if something went wrong
> > (probably both), but
> > apparently NT services will not start the
> instance. 
> > I had to manually start
> > it to get it to go?  I guess in a way that's good,
> > move little nt people
> > like me away from the GUI tools:)
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > Kevin Kostyszyn
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