And then you could have a background like mine which made it rather
painful...

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210-581-6217


> -----Original Message-----
> From: KENNETH JANUSZ [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:55 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:      Re: Oracle DBA with TS SCI Clearance Needed in Dayton,
> Ohio..
> 
> If your background is clean these clearances should be no big deal.  When
> I was driving submarines for a living I had TS, Crypto and COMSUBPAC
> Special Intelligence clearances.  SI is above TS.
>  
> Ken Janusz, CPIM
> Former U.S.N. Submariner
> 
>       ----- Original Message ----- 
>       From: Khedr, Waleed <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>       To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>       Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:30 PM
>       Subject: RE: Oracle DBA with TS SCI Clearance Needed in Dayton,
> Ohio..
> 
>       Another certification!
> 
>               -----Original Message-----
>               From: Jesse W. Asher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>               Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 3:15 PM
>               To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>               Subject: Re: Oracle DBA with TS SCI Clearance Needed in
> Dayton, Ohio..
>               
>               
> 
>               Very good question!  I've wondered the same thing myself!
>               
>               Michael Cupp wrote:
>               
> 
>                       How would one begin the process of getting one?  Or
> does it have to be government sponsored?
>                       
>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:35 PM
>                       To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>                       
>                       
>                       It is my understanding that it currently takes 1.5
> to 2 years to get this clearence mainly due to events of 9/11. So, if you
> have one, it behooves you to keep it current.
>                       
>                       They used to estimate these clearences were worth
>                       an additional $10K a year for salary.   Im thinking
>                       at least $25K now.    Alot of  my friends that have
>                       these clearances , whether they be DBAs,
> programmers,
>                       Sys. Ads. etc, have standing offers for work in many
>                       places around the world due to the fact these
> clearances
>                       are very hard to get.
>                       
>                       Also,  the companies will not foot the bill for this
>                       delay.  The government usually has to approve all
> hires
>                       where the individual is not cleared.  From what I
> have
>                       seen the government is in no mood to do this as of
>                       late.
>                       
>                       FWIW !
>                       
>                       Mike
>                       
>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:54 PM
>                       To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                       I don't understand the large number of positions
> coming out that require 
>                       a CURRENT Secret or Top Secret clearance.  How can
> all these positions 
>                       be filled unless these company/entities start
> footing the bill for 
>                       people getting the clearances?!?
>                       
>                       Johnson, Michael wrote:
>                       
>                         
> 
>                       That is not my understanding.
>                       
>                       FWIW.  Mike
>                       
>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:35 PM
>                       To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>                       
>                       
>                       Actually no one who has been holds any SCI tickets
> can admit to doing 
>                       so :) One can say you have been the subject of a
> Special Backgroud 
>                       Investigation, and Extensive Background
> Investigation, a Full Field 
>                       Investigation even though 99.9999 times out of 100
> these investigations 
>                       are done for just such access.
>                       
>                       Ian MacGregor
>                       Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
>                       [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>                       
>                       
>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:24 AM
>                       To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>                       
>                       
>                       I suspect that this position will be at
> Wright-Patterson Air Force 
>                       base.
>                       
>                       OraStaff wrote:
>                        
>                       
>                           
> 
>                       Position: Oracle DBA with Top Secret SCI Clearance
>                                (Please do not send your resume unless you
> have the required
>                          
>                       
>                             
> 
> 
>                         
> 
> 
>               -- 
>               Jesse W. Asher
>               
>               "They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a
> little temporary
>               safety, deserve neither liberty or safety."  - Benjamin
> Franklin
> 
> 
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