Michael - My experience (admittedly small) is that the job comes first. Your
prospective employer will hire you in the expectation that you will receive
the appropriate clearances. You might wind up studying manuals
(non-classified) for a month until you receive a clearance. The employer
factors this into the cost of doing business. If money is tight, and there
are two equally qualified candidates and one already had the clearance, that
might influence them.
I would seriously doubt that you could acquire the clearances on your
own because:
1. HR professionals at a company specialize in filing the appropriate
paperwork and shepherding you through the process.
2. The government investigation people would be reluctant to spend their
time in the speculation that you might get a job sometime in the future.
Some investigations involve visiting places you've lived in the past and
interviewing people that knew you in the past.
3. Self-promoted clearance smells wrong. What is this guy trying to pull?
Law enforcement suspicion.
I could be all wet, and if so I expect somebody on the list will call me on
it.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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But can they be pursued by a civilian, or do they have to be gov't
sponsored?
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If your background is clean these clearances should be no big deal. When I
was driving submarines for a living I had TS, Crypto and COMSUBPAC Special
Intelligence clearances. SI is above TS.
Ken Janusz, CPIM
Former U.S.N. Submariner
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Another certification!
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Very good question! I've wondered the same thing myself!
Michael Cupp wrote:
How would one begin the process of getting one? Or does it have to be
government sponsored?
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It is my understanding that it currently takes 1.5 to 2 years to get this
clearence mainly due to events of 9/11. So, if you have one, it behooves you
to keep it current.
They used to estimate these clearences were worth
an additional $10K a year for salary. Im thinking
at least $25K now. Alot of my friends that have
these clearances , whether they be DBAs, programmers,
Sys. Ads. etc, have standing offers for work in many
places around the world due to the fact these clearances
are very hard to get.
Also, the companies will not foot the bill for this
delay. The government usually has to approve all hires
where the individual is not cleared. From what I have
seen the government is in no mood to do this as of
late.
FWIW !
Mike
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I don't understand the large number of positions coming out that require
a CURRENT Secret or Top Secret clearance. How can all these positions
be filled unless these company/entities start footing the bill for
people getting the clearances?!?
Johnson, Michael wrote:
That is not my understanding.
FWIW. Mike
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Actually no one who has been holds any SCI tickets can admit to doing
so :) One can say you have been the subject of a Special Backgroud
Investigation, and Extensive Background Investigation, a Full Field
Investigation even though 99.9999 times out of 100 these investigations
are done for just such access.
Ian MacGregor
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
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I suspect that this position will be at Wright-Patterson Air Force
base.
OraStaff wrote:
Position: Oracle DBA with Top Secret SCI Clearance
(Please do not send your resume unless you have the required
--
Jesse W. Asher
"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty or safety." - Benjamin Franklin
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