Have to add in my 2 cents worth.

I last held a Top Secret clearance with the State Dept
and it expired sometime in 99 when I left the company
that placed me with the State Dept.

Basic requirements are that you have to be a US
citizen and have a 'clean' background.  The TS
investigation goes back 7 years and they want you to
list positions held, places lived, foreign countries
visited, relative information (mother, father...) etc.

A TS can only be obtained if you are working directly
for the federal government, in which case they sponsor
your background check or, a company is willing to hire
you, place you in a federal agency, such as the State
Deparment, and then sponsors your background check. 
All background checks are conducted by DISA I believe
(Defensive Investigative ??? Agency).  During the
investigation period, you are given an interim
clearance which allows you to enter the federal
facility and work on non-classified systems.

Back in '97 when I applied for this via the company
that I worked for, it took about 6-9 months.  I hear
it takes at least a year or more nowdays.

So, in short, no you can't apply as an individual but
only if a company sponsors your or if you are directly
hired by a federeal agency.  Also note that the
company that sponsors you must also have some form of
clearance with the government in case you were
thinking of opening up a company yourself.

hth

mkb


--- Michael Cupp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But can they be pursued by a civilian, or do they
> have to be gov't sponsored?  
> 
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: KENNETH JANUSZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>       Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 3:55 PM
>       To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>       Subject: Re: Oracle DBA with TS SCI Clearance
> Needed in Dayton, Ohio..
>       
>       
>       If your background is clean these clearances should
> be no big deal.  When I was driving submarines for a
> living I had TS, Crypto and COMSUBPAC Special
> Intelligence clearances.  SI is above TS.
>        
>       Ken Janusz, CPIM
>       Former U.S.N. Submariner
> 
>               ----- Original Message ----- 
>               From: Khedr, Waleed <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> 
>               To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>               Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:30 PM
>               Subject: RE: Oracle DBA with TS SCI Clearance
> Needed in Dayton, Ohio..
> 
>               Another certification!
> 
>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       From: Jesse W. Asher
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>                       Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 3:15 PM
>                       To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>                       Subject: Re: Oracle DBA with TS SCI Clearance
> Needed in Dayton, Ohio..
>                       
>                       
> 
>                       Very good question!  I've wondered the same thing
> myself!
>                       
>                       Michael Cupp wrote:
>                       
> 
>                               How would one begin the process of getting one? 
> Or does it have to be government sponsored?
>                               
>                               -----Original Message-----
>                               Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:35 PM
>                               To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>                               
>                               
>                               It is my understanding that it currently takes
> 1.5 to 2 years to get this clearence mainly due to
> events of 9/11. So, if you have one, it behooves you
> to keep it current.
>                               
>                               They used to estimate these clearences were
> worth
>                               an additional $10K a year for salary.   Im
> thinking
>                               at least $25K now.    Alot of  my friends that
> have
>                               these clearances , whether they be DBAs,
> programmers,
>                               Sys. Ads. etc, have standing offers for work in
> many
>                               places around the world due to the fact these
> clearances
>                               are very hard to get.
>                               
>                               Also,  the companies will not foot the bill for
> this
>                               delay.  The government usually has to approve
> all hires
>                               where the individual is not cleared.  From what
> I have
>                               seen the government is in no mood to do this as
> of
>                               late.
>                               
>                               FWIW !
>                               
>                               Mike
>                               
>                               -----Original Message-----
>                               Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:54 PM
>                               To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>                               
>                               
>                               
>                               I don't understand the large number of positions
> coming out that require 
>                               a CURRENT Secret or Top Secret clearance.  How
> can all these positions 
>                               be filled unless these company/entities start
> footing the bill for 
>                               people getting the clearances?!?
>                               
>                               Johnson, Michael wrote:
>                               
>                                 
> 
>                                       That is not my understanding.
>                                       
>                                       FWIW.  Mike
>                                       
>                                       -----Original Message-----
>                                       Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:35 PM
>                                       To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>                                       
>                                       
>                                       Actually no one who has been holds any SCI
> tickets can admit to doing 
>                                       so :) One can say you have been the subject of
> a Special Backgroud 
>                                       Investigation, and Extensive Background
> Investigation, a Full Field 
>                                       Investigation even though 99.9999 times out of
> 100 these investigations 
>                                       are done for just such access.
>                                       
>                                       Ian MacGregor
>                                       Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
>                                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>                                       
>                                       
>                                       -----Original Message-----
>                                       Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:24 AM
>                                       To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>                                       
>                                       
>                                       I suspect that this position will be at
> Wright-Patterson Air Force 
>                                       base.
>                                       
>                                       OraStaff wrote:
>                                        
>                                       
>                                           
> 
>                                       Position: Oracle DBA with Top Secret SCI
> Clearance
>                                                (Please do not send your resume unless
> you have the required
>                                          
>                                       
>                                             
> 
>                               
>                                 
> 
> 
>                       -- 
>                       Jesse W. Asher
>                       
>                       "They that can give up essential liberty to
> purchase a little temporary
>                       safety, deserve neither liberty or safety."  -
> Benjamin Franklin
> 
> 
>       
> 
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