Well, read this poem: 99 bugs in the programs 99 bugs fixed some bugs install a patch
101 bugs in the program.... Yechiel Adar Mehish ----- Original Message ----- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 5:08 AM > I guess you are not using Oracle Human Resources Applications. For most of > the patches that we've applied, there are new bugs. It's a never-ending > applying patches-after-patches ... We've lost count of the number of TARs > opened. The worst part is after applying a patch to solve a bug, the new > problem which was not documented in the readme file always emerge itself > after sometime. By then, it's too late to revert back to the old version. > Are we the only company having the problem ? sigh.. > > Regds, > Catherine > -----Original Message----- > From: Conboy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 5:54 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Oracle Arm Twisting? > > "I've called Oracle for a TAR once in the past 18 months." > > Ah, my friend, but you're not using Portal 9.0.2, are you? > I've opened more TARs in the last few months than the rest of my Oracle > career. Bleeding edge, I guess, so maybe its our own fault. But > third-party support for this would have stopped the project before it got > started. > > I agree that its not accurate to generalize all tech support > as nimrods. There are some very good ones out there, and even the rest at > least have acccess to all the internal notes we can't get to (Grrrrr...why > the hell do they show in metalink searches if we can't see them?). And the > developers, if you can ever get to them, know their stuff and are a pretty > decent bunch. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 5:18 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Well, that's not really fair. There are a number of good > people > that work for Oracle Support. True, there are also some > that > are subpar, but how often is it necessary to open a TAR > anymore? > > MetaLink has vastly improved over the past couple of years. > > I've called Oracle for a TAR once in the past 18 months. > > Some excellent in depth posts that you may have seen on this > list were put there buy Oracle support personnel. > > No, I'm not saying who they are. > > Jared > > > > > > Rodd Holman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 08/14/2002 09:53 AM > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Subject: RE: Oracle Arm Twisting? > > > Yes, Oracle support sucks, and is staffed with morons. > However one thing > you get with Oracle support that you cannot get with third > party support > is bug fixes and product upgrades. If you want this without > a support > contract, you need to buy new licenses each time you > upgrade. > > Rodd > > On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 11:13, Steven Lembark wrote: > -- Naveen Nahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Now they say, that this can't be done and the product > license will be > > terminated if we want this. The thing is that Oracle > support is > useless(I > > get more help from this forum :) ), but we still want it, > just in case. > > Ever heard of "FUD"? That's what Oracle is selling you if > you think their support is that bad: fear of not having > support that you don't want because you think it's bad. > > Q: Does anyone know of any reliable 3rd party support for > Oracle? > > -- > Steven Lembark 2930 W. Palmer > Workhorse Computing Chicago, IL 60647 > +1 800 762 1582 > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Steven Lembark > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) > 538-5051 > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / > Mailing Lists > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail > message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') > and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). > You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like > subscribing). > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) > 538-5051 > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / > Mailing Lists > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail > message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') > and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). > You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like > subscribing). > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Conboy, Jim > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) > 538-5051 > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / > Mailing Lists > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail > message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') > and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). > You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like > subscribing). > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC) > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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