I keep wondering if the names they use are their real names, or just labels.
 
Some shops have "names" for phone receptionists for example, but the names they use aren't their real names.  (e.g. Amy Friend, amie in French means "friend"...)
 
I imagine some places do that for helpdesks as well.
 
Just curious, not really important.
 
;-)

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)


-----Original Message-----
From: Rodd Holman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 11:53 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Oracle Arm Twisting?

OK, I was a bit over generalized.  Yes, I know Anita knows her stuff as well as most of the senior level support folks.  My frustration is with the rocks that take up the first line handling of TAR's.  From my experience with them, the only job requirement is the ability to be present.  Respiration and heartbeat may be optional.  Once you get past them to someone who can actually work the issue quality improves significantly.  It's almost like job interviews and getting past the HR drones.

Rodd

On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 20:13, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
she is. And she does. And she's the one in charge of the RDA project --
the Remote Diagnostic Agent 

And from experience, yeah, some people at Oracle Support are less than
wonderful. And some (like Anita) are amazing.

As with everything, you win some, you lose some. Depends on who you
talk to.

Oh, and it's always possible to get your TAR reassigned. You ask to
speak to the duty manager. And keep asking.

The only reason you get stuck with someone who doesn't know what they
are doing is because you let yourself get stuck.



--- "Weaver, Walt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anybody know if Anita Bardeen is still working for Oracle Support?
>  
> --Walt Weaver
>   Bozeman, Montana
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:54 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Yes, Oracle support sucks, and is staffed with morons.  However one
> thing
> you get with Oracle support that you cannot get with third party
> support is
> bug fixes and product upgrades.  If you want this without a support
> contract, you need to buy new licenses each time you upgrade. 
> 
> Rodd 
> 
> On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 11:13, Steven Lembark wrote: 
> 
> -- Naveen Nahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> 
> > Now they say, that this can't be done and the product license will
> be
> 
> > terminated if we want this. The thing is that Oracle support is
> useless(I
> 
> > get more help from this forum :) ), but we still want it, just in
> case.
> 
> 
> 
> Ever heard of "FUD"? That's what Oracle is selling you if
> 
> you think their support is that bad: fear of not having
> 
> support that you don't want because you think it's bad.
> 
> 
> 
> Q:  Does anyone know of any reliable 3rd party support for
> 
>     Oracle?
> 
> 
> 
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