Thank you for the response - I especially liked (& agreed with) the 
rant.  You expressed many of the same concerns that I have, but this is 
a small operation and there's a lot to clean up.  The application was 
installed in the system schema, the users all had 'SYSTEM' for their 
temporary tablespace, dual had 121 rows in it, backup was copying the 
wrong $ORACLE_HOME, the database and configuration files were in 
'unusual' locations and the developer uses a where clause to sequence 
his results instead of specifying 'order by'. Did I mention there's no 
test server?

Maybe I'll get them on RMAN eventually, and I will be testing the 
recovery process, but for now, I'll just be happy to get a complete 
backup on tape.  If anyone is aware of potential pitfalls to watch out 
for until the situation can be improved, I'd appreciate add'l input.

Robyn

Tim Gorman wrote:
> I've relied on "dd", mainly when working with "raw" devices.  "dd" is
> probably one of the oldest commands in the UNIX lexicon.  It's just another
> way to get the job done...
> 
> <soapbox rant>
> RMAN is a *much* better solution.  After all, how are these exports, backup
> scripts, and what-not going to check the database for block corruption?  For
> archived redo logfile corruption?  How will someone be able to determine how
> many backups are on tape for each datafile and archived redo logfile?  Can
> you do trial restores, to test what's on tape?  Will any restore/recovery
> scenarios be scripted?
> </soapbox rant>
> 
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> 
> 
> 
>>Hello,
>>
>>I need some info about backups.  I am working on a customer site, and
>>have implemented both exports and hot backups.  Both jobs copy to a
>>separate mount point, and a job scripted by another individual then
>>moves the files to tape.
>>
>>Here's the problem - he's using a dd command, primarily because it
>>provides a succinct output he can email to non-technicals.  The file
>>system is built on a 12 disk A1000 array.  We've provided him with a
>>ufsdump script, but he's doesn't want to use it. Can the system be
>>recovered from this tape?  Has anyone ever relied on a dd for a daily
>>backup method? The system is Oracle 9i on Solaris 8.
>>
>>Robyn
>>
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