Ok everyone: <TIM GORMAN TAG> <RANT> As a member of the OW Conference Team, and I Don't work for Oracle, there are approximately 80 presentations from Oracle "Customers" as they call them. Yes it used to be a higher amount, however, Oracle is using OW as a marketing show for their products. If you want "Technical" training, come to IOUG in Orlando next year. Or even better, submit an abstract for 2004!!! </RANT> </TIM GORMAN TAG>
Thank You Stephen P. Karniotis Product Architect Compuware Corporation Direct: (248) 865-4350 Mobile: (248) 408-2918 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.compuware.com -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Get together at OOW and you do, of course, work for a major customer of Oracle. You have never sounded like an Oracle shill at any presentation of yours that I have attended. :) There are non-Oracle employees who present. It's harder and harder to get papers accepted, I sometimes feel as if they look at the abstract a user submits and think "hm, good topic, let's get one of our people to do it". Rachel --- Jeremiah Wilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, [iso-8859-1] Connor McDonald wrote: > > > Does anyone remember the days when there were > > non-Oracle people allowed to speak at OpenWorlds ? You > > know, there were actually presentations that didn't > > sound like you had accidentally dropped into a > > car-salesman's convention > > I have spoken at OOW for the last three years, and I have never > worked > for Oracle. Hopefully, I have never sounded like a shill for Oracle. > If anything, I derive perverse pleasure from making fun of Oracle in > my presentations, just to see if I can get myself uninvited next > year. > > It is true, that presenters are predominantly Oracle employees, and > major Oracle customers and partners. This limits the number of > presentations having technical merit. I only attend OOW to present > papers, to meet you all, and then only if admission is free. > > -- > Jeremiah Wilton > http://www.speakeasy.net/~jwilton > > > > > > :-) > > > > Connor > > > > --- Rachel Carmichael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Not this year... we have several highly visible apps > > > going live > > > anywhere from 10/31 through 11/8 (well, they were > > > all scheduled for > > > 10/31, all the database group's work is done but the > > > developers..) and > > > while I am not the production DBA (a refreshing > > > change), I still don't > > > think be away the first few weeks is advisable. > > > > > > Rachel > > > > > > --- John Kanagaraj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Jared, > > > > > > > > Count me in as I live in San Jose, and will drop > > > in on any agreed > > > > date. > > > > Gerardo Molina (of SF, still on this list?) and > > > self pulled together > > > > a group > > > > of illustrious personalities that even included > > > Steve Adams (and the > > > > Goddess > > > > of course!) > > > > > > > > It would be a pleasure to meet you after all these > > > years! > > > > John Kanagaraj > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:Jared.Still@;radisys.com] > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 4:19 PM > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > Subject: Get together at OOW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear list, > > > > > > > > > > Though I won't be attending OOW, I will be in > > > San Francisco during > > > > > those same dates ( 11/10 - 11/15), just a couple > > > miles from the > > > > > Moscone Center where OOW is held. > > > > > > > > > > Are there any plans yet among list members to > > > get together one > > > > > evening? I think Monday is spoken for myself, > > > but it would be nice > > > > > to meet a few list members another evening. > > > > > > > > > > Jared > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > > > http://www.orafaq.com > > > > > -- > > > > > Author: > > > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 > > > http://www.fatcity.com > > > > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and > > > web hosting > > > > services > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send > > > an E-Mail message > > > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of > > > 'ListGuru') and in > > > > > the message BODY, include a line containing: > > > UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be > > > removed from). 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