Exactly. 

We had a system that used to drag emails (from qmail
so each mail was a file) into clobs in the database. 
After a year or so we had about 15 million emails in
the database - no problems at all.  

Then one day the some idiot (aka me) put a new version
of the program in which successfully loaded the clob
but (to cut a long story short) started replicating
the email files left, right and centre...It took
literally days to clean up millions of (zero byte
size) files...after which point that file system
needed to be rebuilt anyway, the directory structure
was in such a mess

Cheers
Connor

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Arup,
> 
> What Connor may have been referring to is the
> inefficiency
> of managing 20 million files in a filesystem.
> 
> That's a lot of inodes ( assuming unix ).  It's a
> bit much
> for a filesystem to deal with.
> 
> Jared
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Arup Nanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>  12/03/2002 07:14 AM
>  Please respond to ORACLE-L
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>         To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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>         cc: 
>         Subject:        Re: image storage confusion
> ??
> 
> 
> Connor,
> 
> I seem to think otherwise. Storing 100 GB of image
> is not necessarily a
> pretty proposition either when you consider hot
> backups and archived log
> generation, etc. I presume you are concerned about
> the management of the
> image files considering the sheer volume of it. But
> that's precisely what
> BFILE is expected to help with. The images are in a
> file ssytem and the
> pointers are in the database and that's managed
> pretty well.
> 
> However I do concede tht this might pose a problem
> on two fronts -
> (1) Security - beign on filesystem anyone can
> potentially see these. 
> However
> this is not necesarily a concern at all sites. Good
> OS security can 
> prevent
> this.
> (2) Backup - the ssy admin has to explicitly backup
> all these files. This,
> again, may not be that bad when you store your files
> on a single 
> filesystem
> and a backup software can be easily programmed to
> check only the changed
> files,  based on timestamp.
> 
> Just my two cents.
> 
> Arup Nanda
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 
> 
> > Managing 20mil of anything (images/text/etc) in a
> file
> > system isn't a nice proposition.  Go with the
> database
> >
> > hth
> > connor
> >
> >  --- oraora  oraora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > Guys , i posted this already and this time my
> > > question is a bit
> > > different .
> > >
> > > I  have to store 20,000,000 images of 5k each
> either
> > > in DB ( on
> > > win2k) or linux o/s file system.
> > >
> > > the images are to be displayed over mobile
> phones.so
> > > the time to
> > > retrieve the images should be minimum.
> > >
> > >   for this to be achieved , i am confused ,
> whether
> > > the images
> > >   should be stored in o/s file system or in the
> DB ?
> > >
> > >   --selecting a file from linux o/s file system
> > > -------
> > >            or
> > >   --querying it from oracle DB ( on win2k)
> > > ---------------
> > >
> > >   which of the above will be faster ?
> > >
> > > all these will be done with java . this being
> > > condition , i
> > > would
> > >   like to know ur suggestion guys.
> > >
> > >   my DB is oracle 8.1.6 on Win2k.
> > >
> > > TIA
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