I think it's 26^6

There is a big difference between 26^6 and 6^26

let's keep the fun :)

Waleed

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I used to work as a Unix security admin and would frequently run
password "cracking" programs against our password files.  

We found that the really weak passwords were found in the first 5
minutes, ones derived from info in the gecos fields.  Better ones, using
number/letter substitutions in common dictionary words, would be found
in the next day or so.  We stopped running after 48 hours.  We never
found that brute force iteration was worthwhile.

Consider the following if you are thinking of using a totally brute
force approach and trying all possible combinations.  I needed a break
this afternoon...

Assumptions:  All passwords are 6 characters long and all characters are
upper case.
There are 6^26=170,581,728,179,578,208,256 possible passwords
If you can attack 100,000,000 passwords per second you will need 
(6^26)/100,000,000 = 1,705,817,281,795 seconds.
1,705,817,281,795s * 1h/3600s = 473,838,133 hours
473,838,133,832h * 1d/24h = 19,743,255 days
19,743,255,576d * 1y/365d = 54,091 years

If we add the condition that passwords can be upper and lower case then
there are 6^26 possible passwords and the time to attack all possible
combinations becomes: 9.226E24 years.

Back to work now :)
--
Paul




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Waleed
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It's one way encryption. So you can loop on all the permutation for
AAAAAA to ZZZZZZ  and apply the encryption code and compare the output
to the dictionary content. If it matches, then you got the password.

I thought about doing this five years ago, but decided against it.

I thought I will be under the hackers, virus developers groups.

Regards,
Waleed

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How, Oracle does not publish the password encryption algorithm, and I
don't believe anyone has cracked it.

Jared






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nope u can get the encripted password from the oracle dictionáry
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Check the post-it note on their monitor? 
 
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he can't but he can change it to a new one and then put the old back on
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how can a dba see the password of a user.

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