Does it work the way round? Should one call technical magazine a "definitive marketing source"?
> -----Original Message----- > From: Cary Millsap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 12:24 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Oracle Magazine excels itself > > > If you don't call a marketing magazine a "definitive > technical source," > then it can't function as a marketing magazine. :) > > > Cary Millsap > Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. > http://www.hotsos.com > > Upcoming events: > - RMOUG Training Days 2003, Mar 5-6 Denver > - Hotsos Clinic 101, Mar 25-27 London > > > -----Original Message----- > Kirti > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 7:39 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > There is SELECT journal from IOUG !! > John K. and Jared S. are contributing editors. > > >From Oracle's Web site: > > Oracle Magazine: > > Oracle Magazine is the definitive source for information on > the use and > development of Oracle products. > > Profit Magazine: > Profit: Oracle's E-Business Magazine covers technology issues from a > business vantage point. Profit shows how companies are meeting and > exceeding their goals by working with Oracle products, services, and > partners to achieve measurable business advantage. > > > - Kirti > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 6:34 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Oracle magazine is primarily a marketing magazine I think. > > Like MCP Magazine or DB2 magazine. > > I don't think it's intended to be a technical journal. > > It's intended to be an exciting place to talk about new features and > peddle > 3rd party products through ads. > > Is there a 3rd party magazine out there that covers only / mostly > Oracle? > That might be more interesting. > > Regards, > Pat. > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 4:19 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > I agree wholeheartedly, the reason being (to share my > own experiences), that some months ago I sent some > feedback on an (unrelated) article in Oracle magazine > because I thought much of it was incorrect. > > I got a reply from the author of the article basically > agreeing with my points. > > Of course, *that* reply came offline, not in the > magazine! > > Cheers > Connor > > --- Jonathan Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > I think it was only a few weeks ago that > > I posted a list of errors in an article about > > statspack that Oracle Magazine published > > in January. > > > > You may be interested to see that another reader > > sent a letter to the editor about the same article, > > which has been published, with a response, in > > the March issue. > > > > <<quote>> > > > > I found an error in "Advanced Tuning with > > Statspack" in your > > January/February 2003 issue. Rich Niemiec writes > > that in > > the event of a wait on a segment header to > > increase the > > Freelist groups. Freelist groups only apply to > > Oracle9i RAC > > systems, and have nothing to do buffer busy > > waits on > > non-RAC systems. > > > > <<end quote>> > > > > << my comment>> > > > > It is, of course, unfortunate that this 'correction' > > is actually > > wrong. Although the manuals have persistently > > stated, until > > very recently, that freelist groups were relevant > > only to OPS, > > they have been effective in single instance Oracle > > for a long > > time - possibly as far back as 7.2.3 > > > > <<end of my comment>> > > > > <<Rich Niemiec's reply>> > > > > Freelist groups do, in fact, have some benefits > > apart from > > Oracle9i RAC. MetaLink says that Freelist groups > > can > > have a positive impact in an exclusive > > environment > > (non-RAC) by helping reduce contention on the > > segment > > header. However, I should point out that segment > > header > > block contention can be addressed without > > multiple Freelist > > groups, for example, by increasing the > > pctfree/pctused gap > > or by partitioning the segment. > > > > <<end of reply>> > > > > > > <<My comments>> > > > > Surely the point of a 'readers comments' section is > > to get feedback from the readers, add value to the > > article by including readers' experiences or extra > > observations, allow expression of readers' attitudes > > and feelings (without an aggressive editorial > > response), > > and, if an actual error does get noted, allow a > > correction > > to be published. > > > > > > So why publish this erroneous correction ? It did > > not > > add value to the article, it didn't even expose the > > need > > for clarification of a point. It merely elicited a > > repetition > > of some material that had already been stated in the > > article (which originally said: "... If this is the > > case, increase > > the freelist groups or increase the pctused to > > pctfree gap"...) > > plus the claim that the author had to be right > > because the > > comment was taken from Metalink. > > > > > > It would, quite arguably, have been valid to reply > > with > > something like: "Your comments do, indeed reflect > > a well-known, and often documented, misconception > > about freelist groups. However, the behaviour > > changed in > > Oracle 7.X.X, and single-instance Oracle will take > > advantage of multiple free list groups. Be careful, > > however, that you set FREELISTS and FREELIST > > GROUPS to relatively co-prime numbers, or you > > will lose some of the benefits etc....." > > > > > > So what has the dialogue achieved: > > > > a) It hasn't improved the knowledge of the > > readers. > > > > b) It has told readers that they had better not > > write in if they think that there is an error in > > one of the articles unless they want to run > > the risk of looking stupid in public. > > > > c) It has given Rich Niemiec the chance to > > say "I'm right, you're wrong - yah, boo, sucks". > > > > > > I'm not impressed.. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Jonathan Lewis > > http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk > > > > Coming soon one-day tutorials: > > Cost Based Optimisation > > Trouble-shooting and Tuning > > Indexing Strategies > > (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/tutorial.html ) > > > > ____UK_______March 19th > > ____UK_______April 8th > > ____UK_______April 22nd > > > > ____USA_(FL)_May 2nd > > > > > > Next Seminar dates: > > (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html ) > > > > ____USA_(CA, TX)_August > > > > > > The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ > > http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > > http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Jonathan Lewis > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 > > http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web > > hosting services > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an > > E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of > > 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB > > ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed > > from). 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