I think Ora Mag started as one of the marketing tools. Over the years, it has added more technical topics....
- Kirti -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 4:00 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L LOL. This is actually the definition of a "marketing white paper," isn't it? It's a technical document rubbed in marketing stink. I suppose the end result is that technical people won't read it because it smells like marketing. The people who are normally susceptible to marketing *can't* read it because they don't understand all the words. The only net change to the world is that the author spends more time writing instead of hurting someone's system (which is good for the world, kind of like drinking caffeinated soft drinks is good for your health because it prevents you from shooting heroin for the duration you're putting the glass to your mouth). And the world perceives the author as an expert (which is good for the author). I think this is what's known in Business as a "win-win". :)=) Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - RMOUG Training Days 2003, Mar 5-6 Denver - Hotsos Clinic 101, Mar 25-27 London -----Original Message----- Mladen Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 2:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Does it work the way round? Should one call technical magazine a "definitive marketing source"? > -----Original Message----- > From: Cary Millsap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 12:24 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Oracle Magazine excels itself > > > If you don't call a marketing magazine a "definitive > technical source," > then it can't function as a marketing magazine. :) > > > Cary Millsap > Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. > http://www.hotsos.com > > Upcoming events: > - RMOUG Training Days 2003, Mar 5-6 Denver > - Hotsos Clinic 101, Mar 25-27 London > > > -----Original Message----- > Kirti > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 7:39 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > There is SELECT journal from IOUG !! > John K. and Jared S. are contributing editors. > > >From Oracle's Web site: > > Oracle Magazine: > > Oracle Magazine is the definitive source for information on > the use and > development of Oracle products. > > Profit Magazine: > Profit: Oracle's E-Business Magazine covers technology issues from a > business vantage point. Profit shows how companies are meeting and > exceeding their goals by working with Oracle products, services, and > partners to achieve measurable business advantage. > > > - Kirti > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 6:34 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Oracle magazine is primarily a marketing magazine I think. > > Like MCP Magazine or DB2 magazine. > > I don't think it's intended to be a technical journal. > > It's intended to be an exciting place to talk about new features and > peddle > 3rd party products through ads. > > Is there a 3rd party magazine out there that covers only / mostly > Oracle? > That might be more interesting. > > Regards, > Pat. > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 4:19 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > I agree wholeheartedly, the reason being (to share my > own experiences), that some months ago I sent some > feedback on an (unrelated) article in Oracle magazine > because I thought much of it was incorrect. > > I got a reply from the author of the article basically > agreeing with my points. > > Of course, *that* reply came offline, not in the > magazine! > > Cheers > Connor > > --- Jonathan Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > I think it was only a few weeks ago that > > I posted a list of errors in an article about > > statspack that Oracle Magazine published > > in January. > > > > You may be interested to see that another reader > > sent a letter to the editor about the same article, > > which has been published, with a response, in > > the March issue. > > > > <<quote>> > > > > I found an error in "Advanced Tuning with > > Statspack" in your > > January/February 2003 issue. Rich Niemiec writes > > that in > > the event of a wait on a segment header to > > increase the > > Freelist groups. Freelist groups only apply to > > Oracle9i RAC > > systems, and have nothing to do buffer busy > > waits on > > non-RAC systems. > > > > <<end quote>> > > > > << my comment>> > > > > It is, of course, unfortunate that this 'correction' > > is actually > > wrong. Although the manuals have persistently > > stated, until > > very recently, that freelist groups were relevant > > only to OPS, > > they have been effective in single instance Oracle > > for a long > > time - possibly as far back as 7.2.3 > > > > <<end of my comment>> > > > > <<Rich Niemiec's reply>> > > > > Freelist groups do, in fact, have some benefits > > apart from > > Oracle9i RAC. MetaLink says that Freelist groups > > can > > have a positive impact in an exclusive > > environment > > (non-RAC) by helping reduce contention on the > > segment > > header. However, I should point out that segment > > header > > block contention can be addressed without > > multiple Freelist > > groups, for example, by increasing the > > pctfree/pctused gap > > or by partitioning the segment. > > > > <<end of reply>> > > > > > > <<My comments>> > > > > Surely the point of a 'readers comments' section is > > to get feedback from the readers, add value to the > > article by including readers' experiences or extra > > observations, allow expression of readers' attitudes > > and feelings (without an aggressive editorial > > response), > > and, if an actual error does get noted, allow a > > correction > > to be published. > > > > > > So why publish this erroneous correction ? It did > > not > > add value to the article, it didn't even expose the > > need > > for clarification of a point. It merely elicited a > > repetition > > of some material that had already been stated in the > > article (which originally said: "... If this is the > > case, increase > > the freelist groups or increase the pctused to > > pctfree gap"...) > > plus the claim that the author had to be right > > because the > > comment was taken from Metalink. > > > > > > It would, quite arguably, have been valid to reply > > with > > something like: "Your comments do, indeed reflect > > a well-known, and often documented, misconception > > about freelist groups. However, the behaviour > > changed in > > Oracle 7.X.X, and single-instance Oracle will take > > advantage of multiple free list groups. Be careful, > > however, that you set FREELISTS and FREELIST > > GROUPS to relatively co-prime numbers, or you > > will lose some of the benefits etc....." > > > > > > So what has the dialogue achieved: > > > > a) It hasn't improved the knowledge of the > > readers. > > > > b) It has told readers that they had better not > > write in if they think that there is an error in > > one of the articles unless they want to run > > the risk of looking stupid in public. > > > > c) It has given Rich Niemiec the chance to > > say "I'm right, you're wrong - yah, boo, sucks". > > > > > > I'm not impressed.. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Jonathan Lewis > > http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk > > > > Coming soon one-day tutorials: > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Deshpande, Kirti INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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