I've seen it kill consulting rates for developers but not for the DBA side.

joe


DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:


Ken - Since you've recently changed jobs, your upbeat attitude is
encouraging. I think you've made a good point that jobs aren't always
advertised. Another point is that when there are more jobs than available
candidates, companies have to advertise strongly to fill their positions.
When there are more candidates than available jobs, companies often find
that people are seeking out the opening before they post it.

Patrice - Look at what happened over the previous years. In 1999
corporations spent wildly on I.T. (naturally when the catastrophe didn't
occur because of the tireless efforts of I.T. people, the senior executives
felt the money was wasted). Then when spending would have naturally
declined, the dot-com madness stuck and things went wild. I think we are
just about to come out of the natural down cycle due to the extravagant
dot-com spending. But now I keep seeing articles about how much development
work is being sent overseas. Has anyone seen that affect Oracle DBA work
yet?


Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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I don't think it has as much to do with no available positions (although that is part of the answer) as most medium to large companies don't use newspaper ads anymore. They are using the internet (especially for technical jobs) and are signed up with Monster, BrassRing, etc. to do their recruiting for them from their own company web sites. I've seen this definite shift here in the Minneapolis / St. Paul, MN area over the past couple of years. Most of these companies also provide e-mail service that sends you an email when a job is posted that meets your specs. So, why waste your time on newspaper ads that only appear every Sunday?

My $0.02 worth,

Ken Janusz, CPIM


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I've been keeping an eye on the Boston Globe's Oracle DBA job postings,


two


years ago it wasn't uncommon to see eight or more per week, now I tend to
see one or two, or none.

For a while they also announced big IT job fairs, I don't know if they


still


do that or how successful they now are.

The market has really shrunk in two years!

There can't be a huge glut of DBAs out there looking for work... It must


be


a reduction in demand because companies are not making big infrastructure
changes anymore.

Patrice.
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