Well, personally, I'm a bit of a scatter brain and enjoy things to work towards. When I was just starting out, the OCP stuff was a challenge and I used it to 'learn' Oracle. For each test I ended up learning way more than necessary and got a lot of practical experience. The Masters exam would provide another reason to focus again. Right now, it seems like I just read books and often feel overwhelmed by how much I could be learning in the 'next' book or manual. ....it's a personality thing. ......i am certainly not trying to climb the corporate ladder through bs accomplishments. I dropped out of a graduate cis program with 1 semester left because I couldn't stand how fake it was. Everyone and their mother was cheating and the teachers were passing people who should have been in high school. As soon as I got a job, I stopped....and it was not because it was hard..... it would have gotten me one piece of paper without much more effort.
Different strokes for different folks. chris -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 7:20 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L ----- Original Message ----- > > It's too bad. It seems like it would be fun. What for? Make the employer shell out another BIG bunch of notes? To get a piece of paper that says on that date and with that hardware one could perform a backup and a restore? What does that say about the ability to lead a group of developers, or design the strategy for database access or solve a really nasty performance problem without forcing re-development or re-tooling? Or any of a million other tasks truly knowledgeable people get asked to perform? No wonder TK doesn't want to talk about it: it's laughable, and he prides himself in being a serious expert. The single fact the masters was created is the perfect admission at long last the OCP was nothing but a sham. Everyone knows it, some just insist on continuing the good old PC stuff (go with the flow, let it ride, etc). It is the simple truth: its value as a "certification" was and always will be nill. That the masters is being sold as the new "be-all-end-all" is even more demeaning. > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:20 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > So, it's nothing like OCP where you get the certification when you spew out > certain amount of the green stuff? I wonder how long will it take before > seeing > oracle masters who don't know how to take a hot backup. They'll be able to take a hot backup, rest assured. With milk and two sugars, please. Cheers Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Nuno Souto INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Chris Stephens INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
