Well, let's look at it from the purely commercial point of view: 1) Is it likely that my company will ever foot the bill for masters exam? Me thinks not. Even OCP was frowned upon, because it was looked upon as acquiring a technical certification that will make it easier for me to leave the company. Justifiedly so. Masters exam would be totally out of the question. 2) Is it likely that I pay for the exam myself as I did with OCP? Nope. I'd have to take vacation to be on those two courses, I'd have to pay exorbitant amount of money for courses and exams, which makes it highly unlikely that I ever will do so, unless I win the lottery.
So, what's going to happen? It is likely that this certification is the latest cash cow for the Oracle Corp. because the OCP has worn out a bit. The way it is described, there is simply no possible market for this. If they want to make money, they'll have to offer it to the general public the usual way, through Thompson Learning or some other education mass marketing organization. That means that the success rate will have to be around 80%, the price will go down, as well as the meaning or significance of the course. Nope, I believe that I can satisfy the HR drones with OCP and that I don't need to invest few grands into something that will either be very short lived or become yet another meaningless paper and be replaced by the "oracle hypermaster to the fifth degree" or "oracle jedi" in two years or so. Who will acquire it? Oracle employees and owners of the small consulting companies, in order to improve their marketability. Not being one of them, I'll do what I usually do: sit back and have a good laugh. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -----Original Message----- Sharman Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 4:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Funny, I found my cost (free) was acceptable ... :) Pete "Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA. -----Original Message----- Thater, William Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 6:24 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Pete Sharman scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: > Just to clarify, the "old" Oracle Masters was only an indication that > you had attended a series of relevant training courses. There was no > test, no measure of how well you could perform the role of a DBA. The > "new" Oracle Masters definitely addresses that issue. all true, but still priced out of line for many of us that would like to take it and would find it useful. > > > Pete > > "Controlling developers is like herding cats." > Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook > > "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" > Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA. 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