Re: Offshore protests

[Joe Testa]

Yea they do, i was forced to be part of a union when employed by the 
State of OH EPA.  There were your typical state employees(lazy and not 
doing much, didnt want to learn anything new, etc) and us DBAs working 
like nuts and capped on what we could make(back in those days, '94-96, 
it was like 55K and we had to pay union dues).

Damn dumbest thing i've ever seen, union white-collar workers.

joe

Weaver, Walt wrote:

Have any DBA's ever been sued for malpractice?

I used to belong to a union. One day the union told us to go on strike,
and we did.
22 years later, we're still on strike. I'm sure we'll be going back to
work any day now. Then I can quit this temporary IT career I've been
working at for 22 years now.
Unions suck, IMHO. Worst career move I ever made was joining a union.

--Walt

 

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dba union could be considered a trust. doctors tried doing it 
and because they are 'independent businesses' its not a union 
its a trust. they did it to fight high mal-practice suits. 

   

From: "Orr, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2003/09/22 Mon PM 12:34:40 EDT
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But do we have to beat up people who refuse to join... 
Or "make an offer they can't refuse."  ;-)

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Definitely steel workers. We are being left to sweat in dark and we
frequently get burnt by fire. 

--
Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA 



     

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The labor unions would definitely be interested.  Teamsters,
Steel Workers, AFSME?
Ken Janusz, CPIM

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We could make a splash by organizing a DBA union. I'm 
         

sure that all
   

heads
         

on
       

the Capitol Hill
would turn when both members show up with banners, 
         

demanding better
   

pay
         

for
       

starved database
administrators. What do you think, should we mandate 9i OCP for
joining
         

the
       

union? If we were
in London, we could have a permanent beer table at the
         

White Heart pub
       

(or is it the Sphere?). We might even encounter Harry Purvis and
exchange the union stories.
--
Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA


         

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Looks as if tech workers are learning the basics of 
           

protesting.
   

http://informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=15000146
   

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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