"Dale Carnegie" ? ! My - that dates you! (Unless it has recently been reprinted - after 50 years!)
peter edinburgh > -----Original Message----- > From: Mladen Gogala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 5:55 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Offshore protests > > > No problem with beating people up. Violence is, contrary to > Chris Lawson's > book, > an integral part of DBA job. BTW, Chris Lawsons' "Art and > Science of Tuning > Oracle" > reads like Dale Carnegie for database administrators. > Basically, we should > give up > our cynical attitude, become indistinguishable from the > HR/finance drones > and get > rid of our geekish culture. Really terrifying stuff. > > -- > Mladen Gogala > Oracle DBA > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Orr, Steve > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 12:35 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject: RE: Offshore protests > > > > > > But do we have to beat up people who refuse to join... > > Or "make an offer they can't refuse." ;-) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:00 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > Definitely steel workers. We are being left to sweat in dark > > and we frequently get burnt by fire. > > > > -- > > Mladen Gogala > > Oracle DBA > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf > > > Of KENNETH JANUSZ > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 11:30 AM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Subject: Re: Offshore protests > > > > > > > > > The labor unions would definitely be interested. > Teamsters, Steel > > > Workers, AFSME? > > > > > > Ken Janusz, CPIM > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > We could make a splash by organizing a DBA union. I'm > > sure that all > > > > heads > > > on > > > > the Capitol Hill > > > > would turn when both members show up with banners, > > demanding better > > > > pay > > > for > > > > starved database > > > > administrators. What do you think, should we mandate 9i OCP for > > > > joining > > > the > > > > union? If we were > > > > in London, we could have a permanent beer table at the > > > White Heart pub > > > > (or is it the Sphere?). We might even encounter Harry > Purvis and > > > > exchange the union stories. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mladen Gogala > > > > Oracle DBA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > > > > Of DENNIS WILLIAMS > > > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:45 AM > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > Subject: Offshore protests > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks as if tech workers are learning the basics of > protesting. > > > > > > > > > > http://informationweek.com/story/showArticle.j> > html?articleID=15000146 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dennis Williams > > > > > DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA > > > > > Lifetouch, Inc. > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -- > > > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > > > -- > > > > > Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS > > > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 > > > http://www.fatcity.com > > > > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web > > > hosting services > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Orr, Steve > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web > hosting services > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') > > and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB > > ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed > > from). 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