under the goalpost right?

joe


Mladen Gogala wrote:


Jimmy Hoffa would probably agree with you, once they pull him out
from beneath Meadowlands.

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Oracle DBA






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Have any DBA's ever been sued for malpractice?


I used to belong to a union. One day the union told us to go on strike, and we did.

22 years later, we're still on strike. I'm sure we'll be going back to work any day now. Then I can quit this temporary IT career I've been working at for 22 years now.

Unions suck, IMHO. Worst career move I ever made was joining a union.

--Walt



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dba union could be considered a trust. doctors tried doing it
and because they are 'independent businesses' its not a union its a trust. they did it to fight high mal-practice suits.





From: "Orr, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2003/09/22 Mon PM 12:34:40 EDT
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Subject: RE: Offshore protests

But do we have to beat up people who refuse to join...
Or "make an offer they can't refuse."  ;-)

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Definitely steel workers. We are being left to sweat in


dark and we

frequently get burnt by fire.

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Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA





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The labor unions would definitely be interested.


Teamsters, Steel

Workers, AFSME?

Ken Janusz, CPIM

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We could make a splash by organizing a DBA union. I'm


sure that all


heads


on


the Capitol Hill
would turn when both members show up with banners,


demanding better


pay


for


starved database
administrators. What do you think, should we mandate


9i OCP for

joining


the


union? If we were
in London, we could have a permanent beer table at the


White Heart pub


(or is it the Sphere?). We might even encounter Harry

Purvis and

exchange the union stories.

--
Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA





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Looks as if tech workers are learning the basics of


protesting.


http://informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=15000146


Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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