I offer you to try application server from www.prosyst.com.
They implement all J2EE components in pure java server and don't have stupid
restriction about 128 bit for SSL (It's germany company).
But their server consumes more memory.
Now I'm trying to compare Orion and prosyst.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi Dale,
>
> I agree with you. Also my experience with Orion was unpleasant.
> Some jsp custom tag that I developed don't work with
> Orion and work fine with Tomcat and in other Jsp
> Container, the EJB demo crash the JVM, the documentation
> is very poor.
> Also I have sent one month ago, 2 commercial mails in order
> to know some aspect of the Orion license concerning
> the SSL support. Any answer
>
> Best Regards
>
>
>                     Paolo Sommaruga
>
>                     Garda Access
>                     Garda (Vr), Italy
>
> >I have been monitoring this list for a while and have not had time to try
> >out Orion yet.  Well I found that I had a half hour so I jumped in and tried
> >to set up the ejb demo that comes with it.  I noticed many posts about how
> >it doesn't work.  Well I am having problems also.  I followed the
> >instructions and get the following error:
> >Error initializing server: ConnectionDataSource driver
> >'connect.microsoft.MicrosoftDriver' not found
> >
> >Well I placed my jar file in orion/lib just like the install.txt said to
> >do...  What now.
> >
> >Also, here is possibly a stupid question...  I could not find in the
> >install.txt what the database should look like (tables and columns).  Does
> >this not hit a db?  If not, why do we need a datasource?
> >
> >There was a post earlier by Karl Avedal who I assume is part of the Orion
> >team that said to expect the GUI tools very soon with BIG enhancements.
> >When is very soon and what will the GUI tools help with?  Will the tools
> >help me with this?  From the other posts that I see, the GUI tools should
> >not be a replacement from real documentation.  The GUI tools should help us
> >out a bunch, but we still need to know about the configuration.  So far, I
> >see a lot of answers to posts from (I assume) the Orion team with answers
> >that I do not see in the sorry excuse for documentation text files.
> >
>
> >Why should you expect us to pay, even though very inexpensive compared to
> >others, when we do not get good documentation.  There should not be a single
> >configuration/feature/whatever that is not documented.
> >
> >I know I am not the first to ask for this and will not be the last, but why
> >aren't you (Orion) listening?  I will be glad to fork over $1500 to you even
> >without GUI tools if I could get some decent documentation.
> >
> >What do I mean:
> >1. A getting started that holds my hand and walks through every step (and
> >make sure each step works) of your examples leaving nothing for assumption.
> >2. Documentation on what each element means and why we would use it and what
> >it will do.  Your xml.html files start, but expand on them.
> >3. A full reference of what your server can do and how to do them (not hand
> >holding here, more advanced).  Example is the earlier post if isModified().
> >I found that my EJB container provider has the same thing, but a different
> >method name (actually they let us name the method).  I could not find this
> >in your docs anywhere, but could in my container docs and it is free.
> >
> >I know I am not the only one who feels this way by the post I see and I
> >don't have the time to devote to this if the simple demo does not even work.
> >I am sure the demo works fine, but the instructions are obviously not clear
> >enough or I wouldn't be the only one having problems.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Dale
> >
> >
> >

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Vitaly Lipovetsky.
Deputy head of IT division
First Ukrainian Intl bank

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